BrandonF_ Posted March 22, 2016 Share Hi all, I've had some very annoying and ride abandoning CREAKS howling at me from my BB area for a couple of weeks/months now already,.. Following some comments on this subject here at Hub Nation, I've started the process of elimination,.. My last effort, and most expensive (to date on this matter), was the replacement of the SRAM Pressfit BB (GXP) All went fantastic!,.and the only freaky creaks came from my knee, hip, back, neck and...(just kidding),..My beaut RM Vertex 999rsl was running so smooth, I kissed her good night before I went to bed,..every night ???? ...and then. THE CREAK began to Speak ???????????? Now I'm without options, BUT for this.. The little "Wavey" washer on the Drive side of my crank,..it would mean "metal on metal" after all, on my direct mount system, but would mean the same for a spider fitted to arm.. My questions: Do I really need this washer? Does it serve some sort of protection purpose between the bearing seal and direct mount blade? Will it be ok to remove it all together? And could this be the "Part" that's causing this ridiculously annoying creaking sound that just trumpets its way through the down tube, right onto my highly strung amplified low E-string?? Thx in advance Edited March 22, 2016 by CalamityCrow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry King Posted March 22, 2016 Share I bet you its not the bb. i have the same wavy washer on by bb and its been perfect for over a year. I have had two creaks, one from the headset and the other from the rear wheel. Tighten up your rear skewer as tight as you can and try again. Edited March 22, 2016 by Larry Montana Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrandonF_ Posted March 22, 2016 Share I bet you its not the bb. And i say this because I had the same issue. Tighten up your rear skewer on your wheel.Thx Larry I've checked that already, and added a bit of grease to it as well. Why I'm 100% certain that it came from the bb area, is when I, out of utter frustration, squirted some water on the bb drive side, and the noise instantly went away for at least 5km's up a hill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lukelockie Posted March 22, 2016 Share I had direct mount cranks and had a moerse creak. I had the BB stripped, rebuilt, and finally replaced. The creak remained. After a lengthy process of WTFing, that included checking the rear wheel, the seatpost, the headset, etc. etc. I found out that the creak was actually coming from the direct mount spider shifting when force was pushed through it. Tightened the mounting bolts and was A for away. Maybe give that some investigation? wepat, BrandonF_ and nonky 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Bike Posted March 22, 2016 Share Check the chainring bolts... Rock Guy, nonky, wepat and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrandonF_ Posted March 22, 2016 Share I had direct mount cranks and had a moerse creak. I had the BB stripped, rebuilt, and finally replaced. The creak remained. After a lengthy process of WTFing, that included checking the rear wheel, the seatpost, the headset, etc. etc. I found out that the creak was actually coming from the direct mount spider shifting when force was pushed through it. Tightened the mounting bolts and was A for away. Maybe give that some investigation?Thx Luke, have not done this yet, will definitely give it a try lukelockie 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony datoy Posted March 22, 2016 Share When my Giant starts creaking I remove the pedals and grease the pedals threaded shaft where they screw into the crank arm with a little copper slip. It seems to work for a few months.T BrandonF_ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulst12 Posted March 22, 2016 Share That's a wave washer...do not get ride of it... your crank will not work the same without it.Check everything else ... the washer is highly unlikely to be the cause of your problem Edited March 22, 2016 by Paulst12 nonky and BrandonF_ 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaGearA Posted March 22, 2016 Share Check that your cassette is busy eating your free hub , i was hopeless with my bb for 2 weeks before finding out it was my cassette scoring my freewheel BrandonF_ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Longbarn Killer Posted March 22, 2016 Share Thx Larry I've checked that already, and added a bit of grease to it as well. Why I'm 100% certain that it came from the bb area, is when I, out of utter frustration, squirted some water on the bb drive side, and the noise instantly went away for at least 5km's up a hillCheck your saddle and seatpost for cracks and if all bolts are tight enough. The reason the noise went away up the hill is because you were probably standing whilst pedalling. BrandonF_ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Longbarn Killer Posted March 22, 2016 Share S Edited March 22, 2016 by Longbarn Killer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrandonF_ Posted March 22, 2016 Share Check your saddle and seatpost for cracks and if all bolts are tight enough. The reason the noise went away up the hill is because you were probably standing whilst pedalling.Thx LB, I will check all bolts, thx for the heads up. I did check tho, at various gear positions, in and out the saddle. Excessive creaking are only noticed when sitting pedalling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrandonF_ Posted March 22, 2016 Share That's a wave washer...do not get ride of it... your crank will not work the same without it.Check everything else ... the washer is highly unlikely to be the cause of your problem Thx Paul, What is the purpose for this "wave washer" on the drive side? I planned riding without it tomorrow morning, hopefully to eliminate it as a "possible cause", but you got me worried now! Edited March 22, 2016 by CalamityCrow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin PJ Posted March 22, 2016 Share Yes, handle bar on stem, Seatpost, BB, Headset, Pedal threads, Cassette on free hub. Clean and light grease wherever metal touches metal. If that doesn't work, then something is cracked somewhere. Try ride with someone else's wheels on your bike to narrow it down to wheels or frame. BrandonF_ and nonky 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garry64 Posted March 22, 2016 Share Do you perhaps hava an extra waterbottle holder mounted on your seatpost?I struggled for a while to find a creak that only appeared when sitting peddaling hard on an uphill. Ended up being the clamps for the extra waterbottle holder on the seatpost - moved them higher a couple of mm's and all is sorted. BrandonF_ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrandonF_ Posted March 22, 2016 Share Yes, handle bar on stem, Seatpost, BB, Headset, Pedal threads, Cassette on free hub. Clean and light grease wherever metal touches metal. If that doesn't work, then something is cracked somewhere. Try ride with someone else's wheels on your bike to narrow it down to wheels or frame.Thx Martin, I do however believe, it comes from the bb area,..as, like mentioned before, on my ride Sunday morning, and a horrid creaking noise flared up from this area, I squirted some water from my bottle, onto the drive side of the bb/crank, and no noise for +-10-15mins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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