Wheel building

[Wyatt Earp]

I’m simply just reading with great interest.

[Fred van Vlaanderen]

Anyone here familiar with Csixx hubs?

https://csixx.com/products/hub-rear

I'm curious as to who designs and manufacture these? Any comment on quality with first hand experience also welcome.

Tagging some of the people I think may know?

@nick_the_wheelbuilder and @RobertWhitehead and @David Marshall

Edited April 5, 2023 by Fred van Vlaanderen
tagged a couple

[Wyatt Earp]

1 hour ago, Fred van Vlaanderen said:

Anyone here familiar with Csixx hubs?

https://csixx.com/products/hub-rear

I'm curious as to who designs and manufacture these? Any comment on quality with first hand experience also welcome.

Tagging some of the people I think may know?

@nick_the_wheelbuilder and @RobertWhitehead and @David Marshall

All designed and manufactured in-house 

[Fred van Vlaanderen]

19 minutes ago, Wyatt Earp said:

All designed and manufactured in-house 

Wow, that is impressive.

[splat]

36 minutes ago, Wyatt Earp said:

All designed and manufactured in-house 

And, that's a good thing, right ?
I mean, so its in line with their other products ?

[nick_the_wheelbuilder]

2 hours ago, Fred van Vlaanderen said:

Anyone here familiar with Csixx hubs?

https://csixx.com/products/hub-rear

I'm curious as to who designs and manufacture these? Any comment on quality with first hand experience also welcome.

Tagging some of the people I think may know?

@nick_the_wheelbuilder and @RobertWhitehead and @David Marshall

Yup, their hubs are decent, and affordably-priced.
They have nice big flanges too, which helps create a sturdy wheel.
Freehub engagement is quick enough and they're convertible between freehub standards.

I thought they were made in Taiwan, (like everyone else) but I stand to be corrected.

[Wyatt Earp]

1 hour ago, splat said:

And, that's a good thing, right ?
I mean, so its in line with their other products ?

Top quality products from them, always.

[Fred van Vlaanderen]

1 hour ago, splat said:

And, that's a good thing, right ?
I mean, so its in line with their other products ?

Yes, definitely a good thing if one considers the quality of most of their other products. 

[Fred van Vlaanderen]

1 hour ago, nick_the_wheelbuilder said:

Yup, their hubs are decent, and affordably-priced.
They have nice big flanges too, which helps create a sturdy wheel.
Freehub engagement is quick enough and they're convertible between freehub standards.

I thought they were made in Taiwan, (like everyone else) but I stand to be corrected.

Thanks Nic!

[nick_the_wheelbuilder]

Just wanted to show off a wheel I just built.

It was commissioned by someone who converted their bike to a 750w e-bike that destroys rear wheels.

Stan's Flow EX3 rim laced to a Hope Pro4 hub (steel freehub) with e-bike rated DT Swiss Alpine III spokes and Pillar brass nipples.

This one should still be around by the time humans have colonized Mars

[The Ouzo]

@nick_the_wheelbuilder , whats your take on the new "shoelace" style spokes.

https://berdspokes.com/

[nick_the_wheelbuilder]

17 minutes ago, The Ouzo said:

@nick_the_wheelbuilder , whats your take on the new "shoelace" style spokes.

https://berdspokes.com/

I think it's a really novel concept. However....

I believe it's a (very expensive) solution to a non-existent problem.

Are they light? Sure.

Light enough to justify the price? Not in my opinion, especially in South Africa.

They're also a pain in the neck to build wheels with - you need special tools, special hub preparation, time needed overnight for the spokes to stretch and settle.

Cool concept. Terrible value for money.

I'll still build you a set of wheels with them if you ask

[The Ouzo]

6 minutes ago, nick_the_wheelbuilder said:

I think it's a really novel concept. However....

I believe it's a (very expensive) solution to a non-existent problem.

Are they light? Sure.

Light enough to justify the price? Not in my opinion, especially in South Africa.

They're also a pain in the neck to build wheels with - you need special tools, special hub preparation, time needed overnight for the spokes to stretch and settle.

Cool concept. Terrible value for money.

I'll still build you a set of wheels with them if you ask

Thanks for the reply. 

Was wondering about the structural integrity etc. of the build. 

Not that I'm interested in using them, its just that its something new and different and the concept seems interesting to me. Right now I cant afford new tyres let alone new wheels.

[TheoG]

@nick_the_wheelbuilder can you please assist.

I used 25mm 28 hole Rapide rims for more than a year with lots of distance on them.  My rear wheel pulled a spoke through the rim over the weekend, rim cracked.  The rider limit on them is stated at 90kg and I'm a bit over at 96kg.

Until this failure I was very happy with these rims but now that I need to replace I was wondering if I should replace with the same or rather go for Race Face ARC offset at double the price.  I am in the process of loosing weight and the Rapide rims are excellent value for money.

So, please recommend, should I stay on the Rapide rims or rather go with the Race Face?

[nick_the_wheelbuilder]

4 minutes ago, TheoG said:

@nick_the_wheelbuilder can you please assist.

I used 25mm 28 hole Rapide rims for more than a year with lots of distance on them.  My rear wheel pulled a spoke through the rim over the weekend, rim cracked.  The rider limit on them is stated at 90kg and I'm a bit over at 96kg.

Until this failure I was very happy with these rims but now that I need to replace I was wondering if I should replace with the same or rather go for Race Face ARC offset at double the price.  I am in the process of loosing weight and the Rapide rims are excellent value for money.

So, please recommend, should I stay on the Rapide rims or rather go with the Race Face?

Hey Theo, even if you lose 10kg, you'll still be kinda on the limit for the Rapide rims - I like them too though.

My advice is to spend once, ride forever.
 

The best options right now available locally for you are:

Zero MT25 @ R1695 each (25mm inner)

Stan's Arch Mk4 @ R2290 each (28mm inner)

Spank Spike Race 33 @ R1895 each (28mm inner)

 

Hope this helps.

[TheoG]

12 minutes ago, nick_the_wheelbuilder said:

Hey Theo, even if you lose 10kg, you'll still be kinda on the limit for the Rapide rims - I like them too though.

My advice is to spend once, ride forever.
 

The best options right now available locally for you are:

Zero MT25 @ R1695 each (25mm inner)

Stan's Arch Mk4 @ R2290 each (28mm inner)

Spank Spike Race 33 @ R1895 each (28mm inner)

 

Hope this helps.

Thanks Nick, do you maybe know the weights of these 3 rims?