Open letter by Vents regarding disc brakes **Graphic photos**

[SwissVan]

Do you think that Eddys comments are driven by his concern for athletes or his bike companies RnD budget?

 

What RnD, they already have bikes with Discs?

Eddy already said discs are ok for fun riders, just not in the close proximity of the racing peloton

 

[raptor-22]

What RnD, they already have bikes with Discs?

Eddy already said discs are ok for fun riders, just not in the close proximity of the racing peloton

 

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Exactly.

 

Manufacturers want disc because it reduces complexity during manufacturing. Much easier to fit discs and bleed them than it is too thread cables and cut too multiple hoses and lengths. Fewer steps involved. Reduced inventory for component manufacturers too.

Discs are no safer than rim brakes nor are they more powerful. The amount of power any brake can apply is governed by the amount of traction available.same is true in the wet. More powerful brakes would just make braking in the wet more dangerous.

 

For manufacturers the little bit of money spent on R&D to fit discs brakes is a drop in the ocean compared to the reduction in parts holding. 

 

Lets not even start on the marketing aspects because they already sold a dummy in 29ers.......now they think they sell more dummies to people with cash to blow

[Patchelicious]

Aha stand corrected

[Headshot]

Exactly.

 

Manufacturers want disc because it reduces complexity during manufacturing. Much easier to fit discs and bleed them than it is too thread cables and cut too multiple hoses and lengths. Fewer steps involved. Reduced inventory for component manufacturers too.

Discs are no safer than rim brakes nor are they more powerful. The amount of power any brake can apply is governed by the amount of traction available.same is true in the wet. More powerful brakes would just make braking in the wet more dangerous.

 

For manufacturers the little bit of money spent on R&D to fit discs brakes is a drop in the ocean compared to the reduction in parts holding. 

 

Lets not even start on the marketing aspects because they already sold a dummy in 29ers.......now they think they sell more dummies to people with cash to blow

Is this the same argument you came up with when MTB disks were being introduced?

[rattlesnake]

Exactly.

 

Manufacturers want disc because it reduces complexity during manufacturing. Much easier to fit discs and bleed them than it is too thread cables and cut too multiple hoses and lengths. Fewer steps involved. Reduced inventory for component manufacturers too.

Discs are no safer than rim brakes nor are they more powerful. The amount of power any brake can apply is governed by the amount of traction available.same is true in the wet. More powerful brakes would just make braking in the wet more dangerous.

 

For manufacturers the little bit of money spent on R&D to fit discs brakes is a drop in the ocean compared to the reduction in parts holding. 

 

Lets not even start on the marketing aspects because they already sold a dummy in 29ers.......now they think they sell more dummies to people with cash to blow

 

I disagree on that point.... the bit about 29ers being dummies 

['Dale]

Unless I race a bike on ProConti or WorldTour level, satisfying sponsorship obligations and bleeding from the eyeballs for 200 race days a year....

 

I just won't get it

 

The PROs know

 

Let's see what the corporate suits achieve

[rock]

Pro's don't want the extra weight of disc brakes, those pesky motors and magnets they have now already add enough weight.

[BDF]

Do you think that Eddys comments are driven by his concern for athletes or his bike companies RnD budget?

He sold the company and only pops in for a tea and to test ride the new designs. I guess that is semi-retirement.

[splat]

UCI have suspended the use of disk brakes. .

 

Shees that was fast.. yet they still haven't done a thing about the motorbike issue

 

It's contagious

 

Cyclists taking part in French sportives, including L’Etape du Tour, hugely popular among British riders, will not be able to do so on bikes equipped with disc brakes after the French cycling federation (FFC) decided to ban them.

 

http://road.cc/content/news/186893-disc-brakes-banned-french-sportives-including-letape-du-tour

[Patchelicious]

UCI - "Well at least he wasnt using disk brakes!"

 

http://i2.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article1863862.ece/ALTERNATES/s1200/Motorcycle-Crashes-Into-Cyclists.jpg

[carbon29er]

Don't need them, won't buy them if I had the opportunity.

 

By the time I need that much braking power, the front wheel of my skinny bike has long left the ground and my ass will have already been united with mother earth.

On the MTB it works very well with mud.  But I don't do mud or wet on the road bike.  That is why I own 'n MTB.  To ride with that in the mud and rain with wider tyres with proper grip and thread to handle bigger brake forces.

 

But that is just me.

I am sure the bike industry will push this through and that the LBS will sell lots and lots of them in future to come. 

 

 

Yes, critical for variable terrain (meaning mud, sand, gravel, rivers, etc)

 

The skinny tyre lock-up argument is not a valid argument. It does not happen.

 

I have been on road disc brakes (SRAM Red) for over a year. I have not locked up a wheel once in that time, rain or dry, despite being a *** bike rider. I locked up plenty of times on rim brakes, rain and dry, when the brake would suddenly take in heavy braking.

 

In the Pyrenees and Alps fast hairpins were significantly more comfortable on discs than rims, heat build up concerns on the tyre and tube non existent for me compared to my mates who were a bit nervous on 15km descents in 35+ degree heat.

 

Times off Red Hill and Chappies towards Noordhoek show better braking control means faster riding. And yes, I do get lines into corners wrong and have locked up plenty in the past in a quest to go down better than most. Going down is a pleasure.

['Dale]

The skinny tyre lock-up argument is not a valid argument. It does not happen.

 

I have been on road disc brakes (SRAM Red) for over a year. I have not locked up a wheel once in that time, rain or dry, despite being a *** bike rider. I locked up plenty of times on rim brakes, rain and dry, when the brake would suddenly take in heavy braking.

 

In the Pyrenees and Alps fast hairpins were significantly more comfortable on discs than rims, heat build up concerns on the tyre and tube non existent for me compared to my mates who were a bit nervous on 15km descents in 35+ degree heat.

 

Times off Red Hill and Chappies towards Noordhoek show better braking control means faster riding. And yes, I do get lines into corners wrong and have locked up plenty in the past in a quest to go down better than most. Going down is a pleasure.

I think they're excellent for the amateur guy

I think they're too dangerous for the fast-moving PRO peloton

[Paul Ruinaard]

I think they're excellent for the amateur guy

I think they're too dangerous for the fast-moving PRO peloton

Okay you need to explain your logic on this statement.

 

It defeats me.

 

What do you mean by dangerous for the PRO peloton? 

[Patchelicious]

Cars with drum brakes can also lock up their tyres.

[Patchelicious]

Ban all disks brakes from the motorbikes that follow the pelaton around if they are so dangerous then. #diskbrakeskill

[carbon29er]

I think they're excellent for the amateur guy

I think they're too dangerous for the fast-moving PRO peloton

Words fail me.