Is Boost the new thing?

[dirklouw]

Hi, do anybody know if there is a way if and how  one can still use old (new) wheelset in new SC Tallboy 3?

[Captain Fastbastard Mayhem]

Hi, do anybody know if there is a way if and how  one can still use old (new) wheelset in new SC Tallboy 3?

Nope. On the back you'll need a boost compatible hub, and they don't make spacers for that. 

 

So it's a new hub for you, unfortunately. 

[Sidmouth]

Spacers will not work as the disc brake mounts are further out, its new wheels or hubs, front fork and im guessing a crank with a bigger chain line 

[Captain Fastbastard Mayhem]

Spacers will not work as the disc brake mounts are further out, its new wheels or hubs, front fork and im guessing a crank with a bigger chain line 

Different front fork not necessary. Just at the back that the changes are needed. You can run a non-boost fork on a boost frame. Won't make a shred of difference unless you want to run plus--sized tires, as they have slightly more clearance around the cross-brace. 

[rouxtjie]

I wonder if this has actually had the opposite effect ito what the manufacturers were hoping for. Lots of guys buy frames and transplant their wheels / group over from a previous frame. Given the new standard...wonder how many didnt pull the trigger on new frames

[Cyklon]

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[Cyklon]

Here is a link with the tech lingo ....

 

http://enduro-mtb.com/en/tech-talk-whats-the-boost-standard-all-about/

[Sidmouth]

Different front fork not necessary. Just at the back that the changes are needed. You can run a non-boost fork on a boost frame. Won't make a shred of difference unless you want to run plus--sized tires, as they have slightly more clearance around the cross-brace. 

I hear you, but to spend R47K on a frame and then to be snoep not getting the right wheel in front?,  if it is going to change you might as well move with the times

[Captain Fastbastard Mayhem]

I hear you, but to spend R47K on a frame and then to be snoep not getting the right wheel in front?,  if it is going to change you might as well move with the times

Nah, snoep's got nothing to do with it. For some people, 47k on the frame is the limit of their affordability. It's not necessary to have boost in the front, as all the frame cares about is the steerer size. It IS necessary to have boost in the rear, though. Both options are equally "right". 

[Showtime]

I have learnt over time that if you buy a new bike today that ticks all the boxes it will seem obsolete in 3 years time.

 

If in 2013 you bought your dream bike with 

 

- the latest 142 x 12 rear

- thru axle front

- bang up to date 2 x 10 gearing

- top of the range 21mm wide rims

 

today your top tube would be too short, your head angle too steep, your axle standards and gearing outdated, your rims to narrow and your freekin seat probably can't move without an allen key. Your wheel size might even be old news.

 

This is why I always shop more at the 'comp' level (Reba, XT/SLX mix) knowing that the itch will be back in 4 years time regardless of whether I spend R30k now or R75k. You cannot future proof by spending to the max.

[dev null]

Which is why I am still on my 26er BMC, until I have money to get a complete new 29er package. Actually, wait.  I hear there is a new wheel size on the way.       

[Bizkit031]

Which is why I am still on my 26er BMC, until I have money to get a complete new 29er package. Actually, wait.  I hear there is a new wheel size on the way.       

Yes it's called 26+

[Skinnyone]

I remember this same discussion going down when Specialized embraced the 142mm thru axle and at that time there were very few hubs available for that...now its common place. 

 

Yes its a new "standard" but at the end of the day, Boost has been around for about 3 years now and only making it to the main stream now...

 

That said, I'm off to service my Girvin elastomer suspension stem and URT bike...(google it)  cuz that's way better than any new Rock Shox or Fox fork...  once done with that I'll service my Gripshift X-Ray 400 7 speed shifters, and adjust my Curve cantilever brakes - cuz adjusted properly they work just as well as any disc brake around bru...

 

My point is all of the above is where I started...Google all of it! you'll be surprised to how far the industry has come by adopting new "standards".

[dev null]

Yes it's called 26+

 

I thought you were pulling my leg, until I read this: 

http://www.singletracks.com/blog/mtb-gear/dedicated-26-mountain-bikes-and-27-5-to-26-conversions-are-gaining-momentum/

[Bizkit031]

I thought you were pulling my leg, until I read this: 

http://www.singletracks.com/blog/mtb-gear/dedicated-26-mountain-bikes-and-27-5-to-26-conversions-are-gaining-momentum/

Haha yea that's the one.

[Headshot]

I remember this same discussion going down when Specialized embraced the 142mm thru axle and at that time there were very few hubs available for that...now its common place. 

 

Yes its a new "standard" but at the end of the day, Boost has been around for about 3 years now and only making it to the main stream now...

 

That said, I'm off to service my Girvin elastomer suspension stem and URT bike...(google it)  cuz that's way better than any new Rock Shox or Fox fork...  once done with that I'll service my Gripshift X-Ray 400 7 speed shifters, and adjust my Curve cantilever brakes - cuz adjusted properly they work just as well as any disc brake around bru...

 

My point is all of the above is where I started...Google all of it! you'll be surprised to how far the industry has come by adopting new "standards".

 Ya sort of , maybe, no. I'd say that those are technical innovations that improved MTB immensely not new standards. A slightly wider hub spacing is messing with compatibility for a gain that 99% of people won't appreciate, understand or know that they even have. I mean how on earth do I manage on my 135mm rear axle bike? Could it be that suspension, brakes and geometry are just way more important?