220 less my age is accurate measure of Max heart rate?

[V12man]

I have a 16 valve motors with VTEC. High revving but little torque low down.

 

Saw one 10 years ago after Ian Rodgers at BikeMax thought I had problems. Had to run, FFS, on a treadmill. Max was then 3 beats higher than now so I have lost a bit. But resting has remained constant at 42 bpm, when fit, for those 10 years.

 

My test has remained the same for 10 years, same hill but I get higher up it before I puke now than I used to.

 

So I'll save my Rondts and maybe die trying to prove me right.

Ian is an old mate - small world - fortunately the technology is much better these days to diagnose these things, and you may or may not see something on a newer test - it's unlikely to be life threatening anyway - which might change as you get older - if you wake up with a racing heart without a nightmare, or you feel additional out of rythm beats, go straight to ER.

[carbon29er]

Do you work for vitality

I better increase my ad spend.

[Furbz]

max depends on the sport.

i have seen 198 on the bike. but running i have seen 205.

my required Discovery AVG HR is 154bpm.

 

if i need 300 points i go for a 30min jog.

doing 30 min on the trainer to get 300 points is much much harder for me.

Just requires more effort and messes with actual training as 30min is a joke.

 

the laugh is:

on the bike you warm up (low heart rate), ride hard(still flippen hard for me to get the required 154bpm avg) then cool off. so on average i get 139bpm avg for the full 1h20min.

makes it impossible to get discovery's HR average.

 

my work around is this(indoor trainer):

• Record the full ride using golden Cheetah and a ANT+ usb.
• Record only the hardest 30min of that ride with my Garmin.

boom 300 points. even though my overall average HR was lower than the required.

Discovery really need to get the time based training rewards correct.

 

anyone else have neat work arounds?

[V12man]

My cardiologists tech also do a good job of pushing the hr up

I'm also old[emoji23] [emoji23] so have the same problem, esp when I can get to spike at over 200

I had to show my guy the HR trace from a race.... he didn't believe I could sustain my theoretical max for 4 hours..... he does now...

[Grey Hubs]

The importance of knowing your max heart rate is to calculate the correct HR zones. Is that correct?

[V12man]

The importance of knowing your max heart rate is to calculate the correct HR zones. Is that correct?

Yes

 

But when you use a power meter you will ignore HR zones... and just use power zones

[carbon29er]

I had to show my guy the HR trace from a race.... he didn't believe I could sustain my theoretical max for 4 hours..... he does now...

Careful. You'll be told you a a dangerous google expert.

[carbon29er]

The importance of knowing your max heart rate is to calculate the correct HR zones. Is that correct?

I thought it's to get free coffee or smoothies with minimum effort?

 

Zones not that important, more a reflection of ability to sustain an effort before your body starts rebelling against you. Normally cramp, then a bonk. And that's not with your cardiologists assistant.

[V12man]

Careful. You'll be told you a a dangerous google expert.

Fortunately we were at 1 Mil together for a year...

[Grey Hubs]

Yes

 

But when you use a power meter you will ignore HR zones... and just use power zones

That's an interesting point you make there. I've always thought that the power zone pie chart and HR pie chart should be similar i.e. effort vs HR.

[eddy]

Yes

 

But when you use a power meter you will ignore HR zones... and just use power zones

 

 

You should write a book on power based training .....  

[Furbz]

That's an interesting point you make there. I've always thought that the power zone pie chart and HR pie chart should be similar i.e. effort vs HR.

 

 

nope, when i am fresh my HR is 10-15 beats higher than when i have had a hard week.

so i get the same power at 179bpm (fresh) as i do at 164pm(after a hard week).

[Grey Hubs]

nope, when i am fresh my HR is 10-15 beats higher than when i have had a hard week.

so i get the same power at 179bpm (fresh) as i do at 164pm(after a hard week).

Good point...

[V12man]

That's an interesting point you make there. I've always thought that the power zone pie chart and HR pie chart should be similar i.e. effort vs HR.

They are indeed similar - and related - but in general it's more important to hit the power targets than to worry about the HR the effort induces - although it is true that for an individual, the lower the HR is at a specific power output, the better.

 

The basic problem with using HR as a measure is that it lags the power production - so in short efforts, HR can be going up while power is coming down and other effects - power is just a much better tool to use.

[Thor Buttox]

They are indeed similar - and related - but in general it's more important to hit the power targets than to worry about the HR the effort induces - although it is true that for an individual, the lower the HR is at a specific power output, the better.

 

The basic problem with using HR as a measure is that it lags the power production - so in short efforts, HR can be going up while power is coming down and other effects - power is just a much better tool to use.

I am reasonably confident I always have a HR to measure, not always confident about power though.

[Pulse]

Which is why I posted this poll.I'm smug as my max rate is 42 beats higher than age based but I wanted to see what the distribution looks like. Just for interest.

 

Hmmm... What is your resting HR like?