Pantani Posted May 9, 2008 Posted May 9, 2008 Oh yes, I was trying to figure out if my statement in the Basso thread was offensive... So we have established that the forgiveness of Basso and making him an ambassador for anti-doping could be likened to the story of the Prodigal Son... Is the UCI a Christian organisation? No, not by definition or characteristics. Can parallels be drawn with regard to the treatment of Basso and the Prodigal Son. Yes, it can be argued... Does any of this offend the sensibilities of Christians? I sincerely hope not... Pantani2008-05-11 03:39:07
bob_the_builder Posted May 9, 2008 Posted May 9, 2008 "In 1934, recumbents set world records, only to be banned from further competitionby the forces of bad-technology hegemony in the form of the UCI (UnionCycliste International), the recumbent equivalent of the evil empireand Microsoft rolled into one." Not apparently if you ride a recumbent. Then they are the personification of evil... http://www.streettech.com/archives_Special/bikeE.html
TheLegend Posted May 9, 2008 Posted May 9, 2008 Like I have said before... the fact that the UCI forgives and forgets andwashes slates clean' date=' dresses the prodigal son in it's finest robes andmakes him an ambassador for anti doping... Correct me if I'm wrong butthose to me are the characteristics of a Christian organisation... Just like the biblical parable of The Prodigal Son... [/quote'] that doesn't make the UCI a christian organisation but an organisation with an attitude and behaviour (in this case) that we know from the bible, from christianity. To make it a christian organisation it would have to have christian values and other stuff written down in the organisation's constitution - or in what ever way that works.
Pantani Posted May 9, 2008 Author Posted May 9, 2008 I mean really... As a Christian who finds something to be offensive to my sense of Christianity I shout and rave about it publicly! I don't secretly send a message asking for people to respect me... If the statement was so offensive then I believe as a Christian the thing to do would have been to publicly make your objections known... Christianity isn't about hiding in the shadows, it's about being fruitful, joyful and mighty... This includes making a public stand for what you believe!
GreyOwl3.0 Posted May 9, 2008 Posted May 9, 2008 Yeah...who's not playing nicely in the sandpit?Some folk here are way too keen to hit the report button... I cannot see how Pantani's post could have been offensive.
bob_the_builder Posted May 9, 2008 Posted May 9, 2008 OMG version 2.0... Run and hide everybody!!! What happened? Trying to prevent more un-authorised access? bob_the_builder2008-05-09 06:42:46
Slowbee Posted May 9, 2008 Posted May 9, 2008 I mean really... As a Christian who finds something to be offensive to my sense of Christianity I shout and rave about it publicly! I don't secretly send a message asking for people to respect me... If the statement was so offensive then I believe as a Christian the thing to do would have been to publicly make your objections known... Christianity isn't about hiding in the shadows' date=' it's about being fruitful, joyful and mighty... This includes making a public stand for what you believe! [/quote'] you stand for what you believe .... but I cant think of anyplace were it says ENFORCE YOUR BELIEFS on others ! so behind you all the way on this one Pantani
fandacious Posted May 9, 2008 Posted May 9, 2008 OMG version 2.0... Run and hide everybody!!!What happened? Trying to prevent more un-authorised access? i think he's got more bugs this time round
Slowbee Posted May 9, 2008 Posted May 9, 2008 Yeah...who's not playing nicely in the sandpit? Some folk here are way too keen to hit the report button... I cannot see how Pantani's post could have been offensive. welcome greyowl2.0 well done on a nice first post.. do you own a bike at all ??
Willehond Posted May 9, 2008 Posted May 9, 2008 Just because you report it doesn't mean Admin MUST remove it. Sounds like your beef should be with the moderators, not the complainants....
Mudsimus Posted May 9, 2008 Posted May 9, 2008 GO2.0..you taking the hack serious! Couldnt the moderators help you out?
bob_the_builder Posted May 9, 2008 Posted May 9, 2008 Maybe you could recommend one Slowbee?! Do you have time to sift through 57 pages?
Red Zone Posted May 9, 2008 Posted May 9, 2008 I feel that, if something offends your personal beliefs but is socialy acceptable, move on and dont read further. If however you feel that it is antisocial, ie racist, sexist or tantamount to hate speach, then report it. Act responsibly, dont overreact simply because you feel that something is counter to your personal beliefs
wessel Posted May 9, 2008 Posted May 9, 2008 I agree with Pantani, the word christian means to be like Christ, and refers to when a person believes on Jesus, God Spirit becomes joint with that man's spirit. Then God's nature starts to become the man's nature and then he is like Christ. (by faith). Christianity is not about protecting cilly saying and jumping on everybodies backs. Jesus also made comparissons like being the lion of Juda, lions eat people and it doesn't mean that he eats people. It's Silly! (Excuse the spelling)
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