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Thank you for the replies.  I think Tacx is a good product, but I am concerned about afer sales service.

I also think the Neo is very expensive, but it seems a very good product.

I do have a Ant+ stick, so I should be ok....

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an't go wrong with the snap or any Wahoo product is concerned with regard to after ales service.

 

Christian and he's guys are great.

 

I have the Kickr and best investment in my riding I've made in a long time, even got my wife onto it now.

 

G

 

Thank you for the replies.  I think Tacx is a good product, but I am concerned about afer sales service.

I also think the Neo is very expensive, but it seems a very good product.

I do have a Ant+ stick, so I should be ok....

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Hi all

 

For anyone interested in trying out the indoor trainer idea (ye it's really not as boring as your think)

 

Have a look at the following venue/indoor studio in the South of Johannesburg/Alberton.

 

Bikelogik owned and run by Tyy Ford,

Located in the De Marionette Center just off Michelle Avenue, next door to Virgin Active.

Allot cheaper than the other "indoor Power based" location in alberton.

(https://www.facebook.com/Bikelogik/?fref=ts)

 

Allot more focused, and can be personalized to exactly what you require. Best time/return you can achieve for every hour on the bike.

 

Tyy uses PerfPro, but you can easily also come with your own iPad or Samsung and use TrainerRoad of GoldenCheetah etc.

 

See attached for more information.

 

G

Bikelogik_Pricing.pdf

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So a bit of feedback.

I have mostly been using zwift, with a few erg mode sessions. The trainer is quiet enough, the wife in the adjoining room did say she could hear the trainer, but she was still able to watch tv without too much issue. I have not put the trainer on a mat as yet.

With regards to stability... rock solid, I've gotten out of the saddle with no issues or overt "flex".

The resistance has been smooth with no "steps". The power readings have been consistent (I can't comment on accuracy as I have no other power meter).

The bike clips in well with no issues, I am using my road tires (after checking for foreign objects first) with no slipping or issues as yet.

In summary, I am very happy with the kickr snap. Once I have the Garmin with HRM, I will start doing interval training.

The only thing I have discovered is that training on the IDT seems far more taxing than on the road, and I suspect that the mental aspect of "if I bomb out at least I'm not [x]km from home" certainly plays a role. I'd certainly recommend this unit.

Thanks again for all the interest and advice

 

 

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I'd agree/confirm, ye the indoor trainer is more taxing n that there is no "free peddle light/coast along sections, why I call it absolute value for time, every minute of a hour spend on it is towards the target.

 

I'd strongly suggest giving TrainerRoad a go, allot more structured based.

 

G

 

So a bit of feedback.
I have mostly been using zwift, with a few erg mode sessions. The trainer is quiet enough, the wife in the adjoining room did say she could hear the trainer, but she was still able to watch tv without too much issue. I have not put the trainer on a mat as yet.
With regards to stability... rock solid, I've gotten out of the saddle with no issues or overt "flex".
The resistance has been smooth with no "steps". The power readings have been consistent (I can't comment on accuracy as I have no other power meter).
The bike clips in well with no issues, I am using my road tires (after checking for foreign objects first) with no slipping or issues as yet.
In summary, I am very happy with the kickr snap. Once I have the Garmin with HRM, I will start doing interval training.
The only thing I have discovered is that training on the IDT seems far more taxing than on the road, and I suspect that the mental aspect of "if I bomb out at least I'm not [x]km from home" certainly plays a role. I'd certainly recommend this unit.
Thanks again for all the interest and advice


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There is not time to fark around on a trainer, that's why it's called quality training.

Now, if you really want to start seeing gains, test your FTP, start training using FTP based programs....

Posted

my last 4 weeks of training have been done 80% on the trainer, with intervals using Trainerroad. Can see a nice improvement when out on the road.

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Do you need a HRM to do ftp tests and ftp zone training?

 

 

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Nope not needed. You will be testing your power.

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Do you need a HRM to do ftp tests and ftp zone training?

 

 

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Whilst you are training with power it is worth wearing a HRM to also monitor your heart rate as well

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Nope not needed. You will be testing your power.

 

Not required, however, with trainingpeaks (pro account) it will give you fatigue levels using HR data. Handy to know when you need to back off training a little if your CTL (Chronic training load) is affecting your immune system..

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No,

 

Indoor Trainer with with Power Meter => Power baed training using power zones,

Power zones defined as % of FTP.

 

a HR strap is nice as it shows you time spend in HR zone also.

And long term you can see your HR drop in the zone, or even drop to a lower zone, for the same Power based zone.

 

Similar to having a cadence sensor, not HAVE to have, but very important/helpful/informative.

 

TrainerRoad likes to have you exercise as your comfort cadence, then at times it will say do the following exercise as 10-20 under normal cadence and some times at normal cadence+5, 

 

Yes you can use a Garmin to show you your cadence, but having this information as part of the TrainerRoad produced workout file that is uploaded to TrainerRoad profile page, to Strava and/or TainingPeaks just make all the information more there... more available and together.

 

G

 

Do you need a HRM to do ftp tests and ftp zone training?


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Next question he will ask as he gets more involved is whats a PMC...

 

ATL, CTL TSB, TSS

Go and have a look at the TrainingPeaks web site, for their technical documents and blog, and do the same on www.TrainerRoad.com, under the blog section.

 

Welcome to training with Power. :)

 

G

Not required, however, with trainingpeaks (pro account) it will give you fatigue levels using HR data. Handy to know when you need to back off training a little if your CTL (Chronic training load) is affecting your immune system..

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Not required, however, with trainingpeaks (pro account) it will give you fatigue levels using HR data. Handy to know when you need to back off training a little if your CTL (Chronic training load) is affecting your immune system..

That's only if you willing to pay that extra fee, and then take the time to understand what everything means.

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I think I better do an FTP test and get on it! I suspect I may be a sucker for number chasing and training to target. Thanks guys.

 

 

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