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I just bought the Mattoc to replace a Pike - Odd move I know, but there's some method to my madness, and it's a super well balanced fork, with loads of bells and whistles.  I'm actually flippen excited to start riding it.

 

Not being overly greedy or anything, going to 150mm front and 140 rear.  That to me still feels like a long travel bike, even though it is not.

 

What did you go for? I actually regret selling off my Trance 26'r. I had it dialled and it was such a BMX of bike to throw about. Actually looking for a Shova to compliment the Smuggler. 

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What did you go for? I actually regret selling off my Trance 26'r. I had it dialled and it was such a BMX of bike to throw about. Actually looking for a Shova to compliment the Smuggler. 

I'll show you guys next week.

Just waiting for one or two more bits :)

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Not that this should really go in a thread about long travel bikes but trigger has been pulled and build is happening at Stoke. Should get it back today... and can find out the answer to my own Q on Sunday. ;)

It's a 29'r that's going to be 115 @ the back running the recommended 35% sag and 140 up front. Thanks to Robbow for his feedback on his one. If you look at the numbers it's a bit of  ahead scratcher and to spend that kind of money on a non carbon, short travel 29'r for some one who likes the stuff I like was a real adjustment on my views. It's been reviewed to all hell and repeatedly came up glowing in comments. "A trail bike that likes to be pushed incrediblly hard. BCXC (British Colombia XC) - think go up big gnarly hills, bomb down very punchy descents". Think that should cover most of it until I can save some pennies for a Patrol as a stablemate. 

HT Angle: 67.5 on a 130 fork

Chainstays: 436

Seat tube angle: 75.4

 

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-a2bwuccnrkA/VCnviQ8amRI/AAAAAAAAPDI/thb60teRbbo/s1600/Transition_2015_Smuggler_05.jpg

 

"With the shock wide open, bombing down very rocky runs like Geronimo on Phoenix's South Mountain was a blast. We were able to easily lift the bike and place it where we needed it to be, and the larger diameter wheels took away a large degree of the harshness from the boulders strewn across the trail. It was as if we were riding a 140 -150mm travel 650b wheeled sled, and the comfortable geometry kept us at ease when poor line choice would otherwise get us into trouble. The bike's ability to get our testers out of these moments unscathed was inspiring. Sitting a little deeper into the shock than normal gives the bike plenty of control and small to medium bump compliance, and only through the rowdiest chunk, big hucks, and large compressions are you really reminded that you're on a "little" bike." - Vitalmtb.com Test Sessions

 

 

Stupidly excited. ;) 

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I just bought the Mattoc to replace a Pike - Odd move I know, but there's some method to my madness, and it's a super well balanced fork, with loads of bells and whistles.  I'm actually flippen excited to start riding it.

 

Nice! Is it the Pro 2? One of my possible options for a next bike is based on the fact that it has a Pro 2 fitted.

 

The review of the Pro 2 also caused quite the stir on Pinkbike.

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Not that this should really go in a thread about long travel bikes but trigger has been pulled and build is happening at Stoke. Should get it back today... and can find out the answer to my own Q on Sunday. ;)

 

It's a 29'r that's going to be 115 @ the back running the recommended 35% sag and 140 up front. Thanks to Robbow for his feedback on his one. If you look at the numbers it's a bit of  ahead scratcher and to spend that kind of money on a non carbon, short travel 29'r for some one who likes the stuff I like was a real adjustment on my views. It's been reviewed to all hell and repeatedly came up glowing in comments. "A trail bike that likes to be pushed incrediblly hard. BCXC (British Colombia XC) - think go up big gnarly hills, bomb down very punchy descents". Think that should cover most of it until I can save some pennies for a Patrol as a stablemate. 

 

HT Angle: 67.5 on a 130 fork

Chainstays: 436

Seat tube angle: 75.4

 

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-a2bwuccnrkA/VCnviQ8amRI/AAAAAAAAPDI/thb60teRbbo/s1600/Transition_2015_Smuggler_05.jpg

 

"With the shock wide open, bombing down very rocky runs like Geronimo on Phoenix's South Mountain was a blast. We were able to easily lift the bike and place it where we needed it to be, and the larger diameter wheels took away a large degree of the harshness from the boulders strewn across the trail. It was as if we were riding a 140 -150mm travel 650b wheeled sled, and the comfortable geometry kept us at ease when poor line choice would otherwise get us into trouble. The bike's ability to get our testers out of these moments unscathed was inspiring. Sitting a little deeper into the shock than normal gives the bike plenty of control and small to medium bump compliance, and only through the rowdiest chunk, big hucks, and large compressions are you really reminded that you're on a "little" bike." - Vitalmtb.com Test Sessions

 

 

Stupidly excited. ;)

Ah man! That's a beaut!

Posted

Not that this should really go in a thread about long travel bikes but trigger has been pulled and build is happening at Stoke. Should get it back today... and can find out the answer to my own Q on Sunday. ;)

 

It's a 29'r that's going to be 115 @ the back running the recommended 35% sag and 140 up front. Thanks to Robbow for his feedback on his one. If you look at the numbers it's a bit of ahead scratcher and to spend that kind of money on a non carbon, short travel 29'r for some one who likes the stuff I like was a real adjustment on my views. It's been reviewed to all hell and repeatedly came up glowing in comments. "A trail bike that likes to be pushed incrediblly hard. BCXC (British Colombia XC) - think go up big gnarly hills, bomb down very punchy descents". Think that should cover most of it until I can save some pennies for a Patrol as a stablemate.

 

HT Angle: 67.5 on a 130 fork

Chainstays: 436

Seat tube angle: 75.4

 

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-a2bwuccnrkA/VCnviQ8amRI/AAAAAAAAPDI/thb60teRbbo/s1600/Transition_2015_Smuggler_05.jpg

 

"With the shock wide open, bombing down very rocky runs like Geronimo on Phoenix's South Mountain was a blast. We were able to easily lift the bike and place it where we needed it to be, and the larger diameter wheels took away a large degree of the harshness from the boulders strewn across the trail. It was as if we were riding a 140 -150mm travel 650b wheeled sled, and the comfortable geometry kept us at ease when poor line choice would otherwise get us into trouble. The bike's ability to get our testers out of these moments unscathed was inspiring. Sitting a little deeper into the shock than normal gives the bike plenty of control and small to medium bump compliance, and only through the rowdiest chunk, big hucks, and large compressions are you really reminded that you're on a "little" bike." - Vitalmtb.com Test Sessions

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CaXLPvU5M3E

 

Stupidly excited. ;)

A bike to match your day job..

 

Tranny smuggler

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If you live in the shadow of Helderberg mountain/Steilte the answer is simple.... more is better! I've been riding my trance which has been upgraded with almost all new everything and still I felt like something was lacking so I did the sensible thing and bought a reign!

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http://i.memecaptain.com/gend_images/M7p3vA.jpg

 

Only thing that is a bit odd is that according to MBR they measured the Strive they tested as having a 67° headangle (in the DH setting), whereas Canyon lists it as 66°.

 

Not a deal breaker, but just something to keep in mind.

 

https://youtu.be/bVnRT0TrGYs

 

What's nice about this specific model is that it has the more aggressive 'Race' geo.

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Only thing that is a bit odd is that according to MBR they measured the Strive they tested as having a 67° headangle (in the DH setting), whereas Canyon lists it as 66°.

 

Not a deal breaker, but just something to keep in mind.

 

https://youtu.be/bVnRT0TrGYs

 

What's nice about this specific model is that it has the more aggressive 'Race' geo.

Hmmmmm.. strange indeed. And you can definitely see the steeper HA. 

 

They're totally different bikes though. One is a mini DH, the other a maxi trail. TBH I'd struggle to choose between them. 

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In my opinion, this is perfection !! 120/ 140 mm travel , nice slack head angle ... carbon ...

( I might be slightly biased as it's parked in my living room) !

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Hmmmmm.. strange indeed. And you can definitely see the steeper HA. 

 

They're totally different bikes though. One is a mini DH, the other a maxi trail. TBH I'd struggle to choose between them. 

 

True. Something that draws me to both the Strive and Meta AM V4.2 is that they have clean profiles. The Capra is a pretty busy looking bike.

 

Between a Capra and a Strive, I think I'd be better served by the more "trail oriented" Strive.

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