Bloukrans Posted February 1, 2017 Posted February 1, 2017 You drifting away bud... selling a 10spd wheel as a 11spd wheel is a big misrepresentationtake. A scratch or dent is a different issue all together. For that, use a measuring tape and provide stacks of photos and let the buyer make his own decision. If the item is still usable then I'm sure the buyer won't make a huge fuss about it. But in this situation, the guy dropped cash on something he cannot use. How would you feel about this after spending 5k of your hard earned cash ?? Pee'd of hey ??
Malpiet Posted February 1, 2017 Posted February 1, 2017 I think the biggest lesson to learn here is that everybody should rather use Campagnolo #Legend
nazmo Posted February 1, 2017 Posted February 1, 2017 If it was clinchers, i would make this thread dissapear
Patchelicious Posted February 1, 2017 Posted February 1, 2017 If it was clinchers, i would make this thread dissapearTubbies are better.
Captain Fastbastard Mayhem Posted February 1, 2017 Posted February 1, 2017 I disagree with your statement here.. As most of us are selling second hand items and lets face it we all have different characters.. ( Example: I advertise a second hand seatpost that has one tiny little abrasion maybe a 3mm long {not a scratch}.. To me the seatpost is in an excellent condition for second hand. But when the buyer receives it across the country his expectation of excellent condition is 100% scratch free { in other words as good as new} .. This kind of thing can go on and on.. So always best to check out the item yourself or have someone check it out for you.. ( My 2c's ) What a crock of shaite. A scratch / abrasion is not classified as a specification. You SPECIFIED that the freehub was 11speed compatible. It wasn't. That means that you sold the item with the incorrect specifications. A scratch / abrasion would be described as a deficit in the condition of the item. Not part of its specifications. In addition, if you sold me something in "excellent condition" I expect the condition to be just that - excellent. That means no abrasions, no scratches, no problems with condition or signs of use beyond what would be considered ordinary. "As New" condition, as some people tend to say. As soon as there is a scratch, it cannot be classified as "excellent". Your lesson SHOULD be that you need to list the item's specs as they are. IE 10 sp / 11 sp / campag / shimano / 24 spoke etc etc. Then, take as many pics as possible to show the condition of the item, and describe it in your own words. Overall, don't be a dick.
Captain Fastbastard Mayhem Posted February 1, 2017 Posted February 1, 2017 Tubbies are better.they generally try harder 'cos they don't get as much act... wait. Sorry. My bad. Wrong "tubby"
Pikey Posted February 1, 2017 Posted February 1, 2017 What a crock of shaite. A scratch / abrasion is not classified as a specification. You SPECIFIED that the freehub was 11speed compatible. It wasn't. That means that you sold the item with the incorrect specifications. A scratch / abrasion would be described as a deficit in the condition of the item. Not part of its specifications. In addition, if you sold me something in "excellent condition" I expect the condition to be just that - excellent. That means no abrasions, no scratches, no problems with condition or signs of use beyond what would be considered ordinary. "As New" condition, as some people tend to say. As soon as there is a scratch, it cannot be classified as "excellent". Your lesson SHOULD be that you need to list the item's specs as they are. IE 10 sp / 11 sp / campag / shimano / 24 spoke etc etc. Then, take as many pics as possible to show the condition of the item, and describe it in your own words. Overall, don't be a ****. sitting on the fence again Myles ????????????
Pikey Posted February 1, 2017 Posted February 1, 2017 Tubbies are better.which one is your favourite ? I know Lala
Patchelicious Posted February 1, 2017 Posted February 1, 2017 they generally try harder 'cos they don't get as much act... wait. Sorry. My bad. Wrong "tubby"Also more grateful
Pikey Posted February 1, 2017 Posted February 1, 2017 Also more gratefullmfao...had to laugh out loud ????????????????????
Captain Fastbastard Mayhem Posted February 1, 2017 Posted February 1, 2017 sitting on the fence again Myles LOL. Dude, I personally think they both handled it badly. If I were the buyer, I'd have been pissed as well, but the handbags don't need to come out from all angles. But 2 weeks later... hmm. Yeah. Should have checked them immediately. Doesn't detract from the fact that the seller is the one who is completely at fault, though. He sold something that wasn't what he said it was. He needs to make right.
Pikey Posted February 1, 2017 Posted February 1, 2017 LOL. Dude, I personally think they both handled it badly. If I were the buyer, I'd have been pissed as well, but the handbags don't need to come out from all angles. But 2 weeks later... hmm. Yeah. Should have checked them immediately. Doesn't detract from the fact that the seller is the one who is completely at fault, though. He sold something that wasn't what he said it was. He needs to make right. Agree with you ..ignorance is not a excuse . Although I use it often ????
Patchelicious Posted February 1, 2017 Posted February 1, 2017 LOL. Dude, I personally think they both handled it badly. If I were the buyer, I'd have been pissed as well, but the handbags don't need to come out from all angles. But 2 weeks later... hmm. Yeah. Should have checked them immediately. Doesn't detract from the fact that the seller is the one who is completely at fault, though. He sold something that wasn't what he said it was. He needs to make right. Thats the point. Both made mistakes in the transaction, some mistakes bigger than others. Its not a clear cut case of one guy being a blatant poooos and intentionally ripping another one off. This is not like the Evan case. ITS NOT ALWAYS BINARY!!! We have given the cute lovebird couple some advice. Now its up to them as adults to use it/not use it. Its not up to us to force an outcome and then throw tantrums if our advice was not adhered too 100%.
eddy Posted February 1, 2017 Posted February 1, 2017 Your good name and reputation are worth more than the pain of the refund. En daar lê die probleem. You and I may do the right thing to protect what we consider our good name. For many it is an inconvenient and disposable commodity .
Raemondo Posted February 1, 2017 Posted February 1, 2017 So for me the most important lesson learnt here ( Everyone please take heed of this ) is that when selling something to a buyer from another province, the buyer must send a friend to inspect that the item is 100% as advertised. That is absolute horse s#!t - "if the item is 100% as advertised" why would you need to double check this? Or should we just start assuming that everyone selling something is not 100% certain what it is exactly that they are selling (as you claimed to be in your whatsapp) Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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