s14phoenix Posted February 1, 2017 Share Yeah right, like I'm gonna be sitting staring at the sky during peak hour !? more money wasted then... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patchelicious Posted February 1, 2017 Share Why doesn't the PPA engage with the BikeHub, run surveys here etc etc. Saying that you are looking at what other nations do for solutions, doesn't mean those solutions will work here. We have our own unique challenges, and Hubber can be a most invaluable source of information. One gets the feeling that if they really truly wanted to make a REAL difference, you would notice it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wannabe Posted February 1, 2017 Share more money wasted then... Why do you say that?http://www.hpepublichealth.ca/sites/default/files/3%20feet%20sign%20NEW.png So in your opinion a sign like this, on roads frequented by cyclists, is a waste of time and money!? Patchelicious, Danger Dassie and City Cycling Athletic Club 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patchelicious Posted February 1, 2017 Share Why do you say that?http://www.hpepublichealth.ca/sites/default/files/3%20feet%20sign%20NEW.png So in your opinion a sign like this, on roads frequented by cyclists, is a waste of time and money!? Have those signs been put up? s14phoenix 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloukrans Posted February 1, 2017 Share Why doesn't the PPA engage with the BikeHub, run surveys here etc etc. Saying that you are looking at what other nations do for solutions, doesn't mean those solutions will work here. We have our own unique challenges, and Hubber can be a most invaluable source of information. One gets the feeling that if they really truly wanted to make a REAL difference, you would notice it.I recall at the last AGM they mentioned the Hub in passing and got the impression they made a conscious decision not to engage on this forum. Captain Fastbastard Mayhem 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patchelicious Posted February 1, 2017 Share I recall at the last AGM they mentioned the Hub in passing and got the impression they made a conscious decision not to engage on this forum.In that case I think they are being ignorant. I have yet to see a survey land up in my inbox directly from them either. Perhaps some sort of protest/disruption in the their beloved CTCT will get their attention...... Edited February 1, 2017 by Patchelicious Bloukrans and bikebloke 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wannabe Posted February 1, 2017 Share Have those signs been put up? Nope, not that I have seen. But I'm quite sure they will make an impact, especially on Chappies and other high cycling traffic areas. Signs like this will also work.http://thumb7.shutterstock.com/display_pic_with_logo/118366/375998305/stock-photo-a-cycling-safety-sign-on-the-side-of-the-road-in-tasmania-australia-cycling-in-tasmania-is-a-375998305.jpg Bankie99 and Patchelicious 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wannabe Posted February 1, 2017 Share Bankie99 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patchelicious Posted February 1, 2017 Share Nope, not that I have seen. But I'm quite sure they will make an impact, especially on Chappies and other high cycling traffic areas. Signs like this will also work.http://thumb7.shutterstock.com/display_pic_with_logo/118366/375998305/stock-photo-a-cycling-safety-sign-on-the-side-of-the-road-in-tasmania-australia-cycling-in-tasmania-is-a-375998305.jpgI think they will too. Fact that they haven't been put up is the issue. Wonder how many signs R3,5m could buy? Wannabe 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desi Posted February 1, 2017 Share Why only 'what is PPA doing'? What about CSA? I see quite a bit of what PPA does (admittedly, I am based in Cape Town), but from my perspective, I see nothing coming out of CSA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patchelicious Posted February 1, 2017 Share Why only 'what is PPA doing'? What about CSA? I see quite a bit of what PPA does (admittedly, I am based in Cape Town), but from my perspective, I see nothing coming out of CSA.Start a thread about the CSA then, they need to help too. I am not going to fight all the fights on behalf of everybody, you want answers, ask the questions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skubarra Posted February 1, 2017 Share In that case I think they are being ignorant. I have yet to see a survey land up in my inbox directly from them either. Perhaps some sort of protest/disruption in the their beloved CTCT will get their attention...... I would prefer them to engage on thehub but I do have sympathy for their stance. PPA threads usually turn toxic very soon. Thehub sometimes has a bit of a negative perception in the cycling community as a place where people just go to moan & complain. If one really has an issue you want to raise with them you can always contact them directly. BigDL, Danger Dassie, andydude and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patchelicious Posted February 1, 2017 Share I would prefer them to engage on thehub but I do have sympathy for their stance. PPA threads usually turn toxic very soon. Thehub sometimes has a bit of a negative perception in the cycling community as a place where people just go to moan & complain. If one really has an issue you want to raise with them you can always contact them directly.You need to ask yourself why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patchelicious Posted February 1, 2017 Share Thread title topic still stands. What are they actually doing about road safety? Right now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wannabe Posted February 1, 2017 Share Thread title topic still stands. What are they actually doing about road safety? Right now? Very little, as far as I'm concerned.They should be a lot more vocal after incidents like these. Use their clout (if they have any left) lobby the City Of Cape Town, "harass" Alan Winde (or whoever the Minister of Transport for the WC is), do something so that you can be seen and heard that you carry the well being of all cyclists in your heart.A letter from CEO to PPA members is not good enough, or acceptable anymore. carbon29er and bikebloke 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skubarra Posted February 1, 2017 Share You need to ask yourself why? No, but I also don't think the hub is always the best place to try and resolve these issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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