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Xc rider. Pure dirt roadie.

 

Keeping it cheap on my 29er build and looking for guidance as to whether tubeless will be worthwhile on these rims and tyres?

 

Do I need to go ghetto or will tape and sealant work okay?

 

Internal rim diameter is 17mm. Tyres don't Sau tlr or ust anywhere.

 

I currently have slime tubes and they've worked great, so not going tubeless for puncture reasons, and run fairly high pressure (40psi) to account for my fairly high weight (110kgs).

 

Is it worthwhile? And what method to use? Especially if I don't replace anything right now, budget is tight.

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Rims maybe but those tyres I think will not seat well for tubeless and is probably going to not work great for TL if they work at all.

 

I would just stick to tubes with those.

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Stick with the tubes for now and wait for a decent special then move over to Tubeless ready tires. CWC had a special last week for just under R900.00 for front and back Vittoria's

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those tyres will work -- they will weep and you will have to top up the sealent once maybe but it can be done

 

I ran std non tubeless RR - * - for ages till they where worn took a bit of work to seal the sidewalls at first then no hassles

 

then I got tubeless easy ready TLE what ever schwalbes to replace them and ive never managed to get the bastards to seat at the rims properly so maybe im just full of sh*t

 

* on mavic ust rims

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Tyres don't Sau tlr or ust anywhere.

 

I currently have slime tubes and they've worked great

 

If the tyres are not "tubeless ready" of some sort and you are not having problems with slime tubes, then ride until the rear one wears out. Put the front one on the back and go tubeless with a new tubeless ready tyre on the front (tape and sealant should work). Then when you wear out the 2nd one go tubeless on that too.

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If the tyres are not "tubeless ready" of some sort and you are not having problems with slime tubes, then ride until the rear one wears out. Put the front one on the back and go tubeless with a new tubeless ready tyre on the front (tape and sealant should work). Then when you wear out the 2nd one go tubeless on that too.

Great advice. Thanks man!

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Put slime in the tjoobs for the meantime. Will help.

Its got slime tubes already and they work pretty well actually. Worst I had was a puncture that flatted, then sealed when I just pumped it back up. I've heard a number of holes being sealed up while riding so I'm struggling to see why I should drop cash on tubeless. Everyone else has confirmed the same though so going to be cheap and keep it this way! Until the rear wears out:)

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Its got slime tubes already and they work pretty well actually. Worst I had was a puncture that flatted, then sealed when I just pumped it back up. I've heard a number of holes being sealed up while riding so I'm struggling to see why I should drop cash on tubeless. Everyone else has confirmed the same though so going to be cheap and keep it this way! Until the rear wears out:)

The main difference between TL and slime tubes is that you can lower the tyre pressure which improves traction and handling.

 

Once you have ridden tubeless at lower tyre pressures you will hate riding with higher or normal tube type pressures.

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The main difference between TL and slime tubes is that you can lower the tyre pressure which improves traction and handling.

 

Once you have ridden tubeless at lower tyre pressures you will hate riding with higher or normal tube type pressures.

Yes, slime tubes struggle to seal snake-bite pinch flats so you need to keep the pressure up.

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Xc rider. Pure dirt roadie.

 

Keeping it cheap on my 29er build and looking for guidance as to whether tubeless will be worthwhile on these rims and tyres?

 

Do I need to go ghetto or will tape and sealant work okay?

 

Internal rim diameter is 17mm. Tyres don't Sau tlr or ust anywhere.

 

I currently have slime tubes and they've worked great, so not going tubeless for puncture reasons, and run fairly high pressure (40psi) to account for my fairly high weight (110kgs).

 

Is it worthwhile? And what method to use? Especially if I don't replace anything right now, budget is tight.

40 PSI is pretty high mate. I am as heavy as you and run 2 bar/29 PSI. I ride pretty hard as well. This is why a pure tubeless i.e. real tubeless /TLR/UST is better as the sidewalls are stronger.

 

You can therefore get much better traction on a proper tubeless tyre, even at your weight, without issues and worries.

 

There is quite a difference between the two as far as i could feel. I did ghetto tubeless and with the thinner and more flexy sidewall of the non tubeless i got enormous traction but very iffy reliability on sidewall cuts. Its not worth the risk becaus eif tubeless goes pear shaped, especially non tubeless tyres, then they are a bitch to fix when 30 kn from home.

 

As they say goedkoop is duurkoop.

 

And i am a big guy...

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