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Yoh yoh yoh. That was great. I love the whole podium. Awesome. I’m so pleased for GT. Also glad that Froome is on the podium. Always like Tommy D. Yesterday was out of character, and totally understandable. Sorry for Roglic.

 

Rugby was pretty good this afternoon as well.

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And I’m inspired to get back on the bike. Trainer to start. Don’t think I will race again though. Those toppies in the racing batch are too intense.

 

Very nice Tour. Thank you everyone for the companionship. You all made it special.

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And I’m inspired to get back on the bike. Trainer to start. Don’t think I will race again though. Those toppies in the racing batch are too intense.

 

Very nice Tour. Thank you everyone for the companionship. You all made it special.

Go for it! Get the bike out!

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So the demise of the pure climber GT rider continue.

1 to 4 all TT type riders that can climb really well.

Will we ever see a pure climber win a GT again?

Maybe this year at the vuelta as most of the big riders are done for the season.

 

Happy to see Froome on the podium..hope he can come back for his 5th.

How many GT podiums is that now? 9 or 10? With one 4th place in there somewhere as well...

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So the demise of the pure climber GT rider continue.

1 to 4 all TT type riders that can climb really well.

Will we ever see a pure climber win a GT again?

Maybe this year at the vuelta as most of the big riders are done for the season.

 

Happy to see Froome on the podium..hope he can come back for his 5th.

How many GT podiums is that now? 9 or 10? With one 4th place in there somewhere as well...

 

I'm not sure that statement is too accurate anymore. I think the top 4 are pure climbers you are also good at TT. If they were not pure climbers themselves then it would imply that the likes of Quintana and Bardet took time on them in the mountains and then lost that time on the TT but that is not the case, these guys practically won all the climbs AND smashed the TT.

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I'm not sure that statement is too accurate anymore. I think the top 4 are pure climbers you are also good at TT. If they were not pure climbers themselves then it would imply that the likes of Quintana and Bardet took time on them in the mountains and then lost that time on the TT but that is not the case, these guys practically won all the climbs AND smashed the TT.

That does not say much about the current state of the explosive sub 60kg climbers.

All of the current crop..Roglic, Froome, Tom, Thomas..Bob..all these guys were more TT specialists that just climb at a very strong tempo.

Pure climbers that win like a Contador you will never see feature on a world champs TT results sheet.The current GC riders are all up there and medal at worlds..TT specialist.

The pure explosive climber never really do well at the tour, but they feature strong in the Giro and Vuelta normally. Now Froome and Tom has also started to dominate those so not much space for a Quintana type of rider.Yates brothers have the same problem..explosive climbers but cant TT..

That's what makes it so sad that Porte keeps on crashing..he will take these guys on in the mountains and then hang on in the TT.

But yes things have changes..the explosive climbers are finding it very hard to win tours now.Over the last 5 years only Quintana, Contador and Nibali have won based on their climbing expertise.

Maybe Bernal will change that for us..attack in mountains and go strong in TT to limit losses.

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That does not say much about the current state of the explosive sub 60kg climbers.

All of the current crop..Roglic, Froome, Tom, Thomas..Bob..all these guys were more TT specialists that just climb at a very strong tempo.

Pure climbers that win like a Contador you will never see feature on a world champs TT results sheet.The current GC riders are all up there and medal at worlds..TT specialist.

The pure explosive climber never really do well at the tour, but they feature strong in the Giro and Vuelta normally. Now Froome and Tom has also started to dominate those so not much space for a Quintana type of rider.Yates brothers have the same problem..explosive climbers but cant TT..

That's what makes it so sad that Porte keeps on crashing..he will take these guys on in the mountains and then hang on in the TT.

But yes things have changes..the explosive climbers are finding it very hard to win tours now.Over the last 5 years only Quintana, Contador and Nibali have won based on their climbing expertise.

Maybe Bernal will change that for us..attack in mountains and go strong in TT to limit losses.

Or ASO will make the TTs shorter and shorter until France has a TTer that can climb.

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And Didata, possibly worst performance ever. Hope some heads roll. We would've asked it if it was rugby or another national sport

If they renew Cav and his crew's contracts then they may as well drop down to Pro continental now. Huge salaries spent on riders past their best.. Cav doesn't have the speed anymore and his leadout don't have the speed to compete with sprinter trains to even get him in the right position, not that it will help much he can't finish off the job nor does he really try.

 

I am a big EBH fan but why aren't they setting up van Rensburg for the sprints?

 

Ag but watch they will probably buy another rider at the end of their career again [emoji849]

 

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If they renew Cav and his crew's contracts then they may as well drop down to Pro continental now. Huge salaries spent on riders past their best.. Cav doesn't have the speed anymore and his leadout don't have the speed to compete with sprinter trains to even get him in the right position, not that it will help much he can't finish off the job nor does he really try.

 

I am a big EBH fan but why aren't they setting up van Rensburg for the sprints?

 

Ag but watch they will probably buy another rider at the end of their career again [emoji849]

 

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Really hard to be positive about them at the moment.It feels like all of there riders are sub par..no one riding close to their potential!

And then also seem to not make great decisions..like you said..why not back Reinie and let him go for a couple of top 5 or top 10's.Clearly EBH is also nowhere..so rather back a younger rider and at the most help him to get some confidence??

For their sake I hope they have an amazing Vuelta...

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