Kona Kula Posted October 23, 2017 Posted October 23, 2017 The third wheel blessers? Saw plenty of them on the weekend. Its one thing if a guy has been with you for 170km and is suffering but finds himself there. But the short distance riders shouldn't be jumping on wheels in a race that isn't theirs.
daniemare Posted October 23, 2017 Posted October 23, 2017 Whoever planned the routes must have foreseen that this would happen. Kind of irresponsible route planning in my opinion. There were two safe alternatives for this: Only have one distance and keep the event a bit smaller. Or have the two distances to open the event to a broader mass but then plan the routes that they don't interfere. The chosen alternative is the cheap, easy and unsafe way out, leading to casual riders upset and racers at risk of ending their season early...not fair to both....Got to disagree here. We need the shorter distances and combined logistics to not let the events die. Smaller events (and longer) will lead to no events. Rider education and maybe rules like no drafting of different distance groups can help.
Kona Kula Posted October 23, 2017 Posted October 23, 2017 Got to disagree here. We need the shorter distances and combined logistics to not let the events die. Smaller events (and longer) will lead to no events. Rider education and maybe rules like no drafting of different distance groups can help.Spot on. We all want more people cycling. Its the organisers jobs to educate the "newer or less experienced riders" on the rules. It wouldn't fix all the problems but you would have less complaints later on. Normally the commissaire at the beginning of each start group would run through a few basics.
SCD Posted October 23, 2017 Posted October 23, 2017 Got to disagree here. We need the shorter distances and combined logistics to not let the events die. Smaller events (and longer) will lead to no events. Rider education and maybe rules like no drafting of different distance groups can help.We may agree to disagree what the better solution is. But it seems undeniable that the risk is accepted to keep the event viable. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Skubarra Posted October 23, 2017 Posted October 23, 2017 To elaborate on my earlier post, I am sure this can be solved by moving around the starting times or maybe deviations on the route. The faster and slower riders will blame each other but I think this is the responsibility of the organisers and can be solved with better planning.
Rider3000 Posted October 23, 2017 Posted October 23, 2017 I would really really really like it if they could move this back to the old route near Wellington... I loved that route and the roads are very safe !!! Think it was at Nelsons Creek or somewhere... 157Km
Pure Savage Posted October 23, 2017 Posted October 23, 2017 Got to disagree here. We need the shorter distances and combined logistics to not let the events die. Smaller events (and longer) will lead to no events. Rider education and maybe rules like no drafting of different distance groups can help.Agreed 100%. Everybody has to start somewhere and even 40km in that wind can be intimidating.
Pure Savage Posted October 23, 2017 Posted October 23, 2017 To elaborate on my earlier post, I am sure this can be solved by moving around the starting times or maybe deviations on the route. The faster and slower riders will blame each other but I think this is the responsibility of the organisers and can be solved with better planning.I think it can be solved by the riders on both sides not being tools. I think the organisers did a good job balancing team starts, bunch starts and the 40km short distance. Riders should take responsibility, you know that on a windy day the bunch is going to be all over the place and once one fast rider passes you that there will probably be more and that one should stick to single file. Same goes to the ones passing, asking people to keep left and if possible give a bit of a gap without a car trying to kill you. Maybe more bike marshals to stop cars passing when the faster bunches catch the shorter routes. I know at the Silos yesterday it was a dog show.
Pure Savage Posted October 23, 2017 Posted October 23, 2017 I would really really really like it if they could move this back to the old route near Wellington... I loved that route and the roads are very safe !!! Think it was at Nelsons Creek or somewhere... 157KmThat was my fastest one, but alas, the venue is too small The last time event was there there were 723 people in total. Yesterday there were 1683! Team: 276170km: 728109km: 57140km: 108 Glad that the event has grown and matured to cater for more cyclists
Skubarra Posted October 23, 2017 Posted October 23, 2017 I think it can be solved by the riders on both sides not being tools. I think the organisers did a good job balancing team starts, bunch starts and the 40km short distance. Riders should take responsibility, you know that on a windy day the bunch is going to be all over the place and once one fast rider passes you that there will probably be more and that one should stick to single file. Same goes to the ones passing, asking people to keep left and if possible give a bit of a gap without a car trying to kill you. Maybe more bike marshals to stop cars passing when the faster bunches catch the shorter routes. I know at the Silos yesterday it was a dog show. I hear you Savage but organisers depending on riders not being tools is very risky... To think for 80km's yesterday I was praying in vain for faster groups to catch me while suffering in the headwinds.. Would have loved to have the OP's problem
pe3nguin Posted October 23, 2017 Posted October 23, 2017 I think it can be solved by the riders on both sides not being tools. Golden rule has always and will always be one thing; don't be a dick.
Pure Savage Posted October 23, 2017 Posted October 23, 2017 I hear you Savage but organisers depending on riders not being tools is very risky... To think for 80km's yesterday I was praying in vain for faster groups to catch me while suffering in the headwinds.. Would have loved to have the OP's problem I have a sore neck for the 115km that no team caught me, it was less than ideal getting to the top of that damn climbing and still not being able to see anyone behind you. :/
Pure Savage Posted October 23, 2017 Posted October 23, 2017 Golden rule has always and will always be one thing; don't be a ****.They should put that on the PPA numbers
Patchelicious Posted October 23, 2017 Posted October 23, 2017 If you want to be a softy, go ride a MTB, road races are not for pussies!! ......seeing that the mechanic thread go closed
lechatnoir Posted October 23, 2017 Posted October 23, 2017 I think it can be solved by the riders on both sides not being tools. I think the organisers did a good job balancing team starts, bunch starts and the 40km short distance. But that goes for life. Pity people don't consider that too often (goes for more than just cycling) Riders should take responsibility, you know that on a windy day the bunch is going to be all over the place and once one fast rider passes you that there will probably be more and that one should stick to single file. Speaking for my lonesome slow self, I was on my own so defaulted to single file, and experienced a number of dodgy passes. And yes, I kept as far left as my skill and wind would allow.
Pure Savage Posted October 23, 2017 Posted October 23, 2017 If you want to be a softy, go ride a MTB, road races are not for pussies!! ......seeing that the mechanic thread go closedHow many days of courage do you need to be a MTB'er? #AskingForAFriend
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