DieselnDust Posted January 24, 2019 Share Ya every tom dick and harry also crashes their drone, pilots are highly trained not to crash their helicopters... to be fair, Tom Dick and Harry don't crash the drone. They simply tell the drone to crash itself but tell everyone it was radio failure.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaryvdM Posted January 24, 2019 Share Where does this perception come from ? Just about every Tom, Dick and Harry can fly a drone, compared to a highly specialised helicopter pilot. I think this perception comes from the fact that the consequences of a helicopter accident is much worse than a drone accident. Drones are fairly light, and they often have guards around the rotors.Helicopters are relatively heavy, have heavy rotors with lots of rotational momentum, and have lots of very flammable avgas. Sure you don't want drones crashing into spectators, but if it happens, you will probably just have one or two minor injuries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajnkzn Posted January 24, 2019 Share Where does this perception come from ? Just about every Tom, Dick and Harry can fly a drone, compared to a highly specialised helicopter pilot. Might be wrong but there aren't as many fatalities from drones as helicopters I think? Until you have a muppet at Heathrow bring down an A 380 with his Christmas present. Thanks for all the input - nice to have a good discussion and learn some more! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselnDust Posted January 24, 2019 Share I think this perception comes from the fact that the consequences of a helicopter accident is much worse than a drone accident. Drones are fairly light, and they often have guards around the rotors.Helicopters are relatively heavy, have heavy rotors with lots of rotational momentum, and have lots of very flammable avgas. Sure you don't want drones crashing into spectators, but if it happens, you will probably just have one or two minor injuries. true true but the drone delivering high quality images in zoom and or wide angle isn't going to be a little DJI Mavic Pro.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmycool Posted January 24, 2019 Share I think I might have found another option. Electric lighter-than-air blimp s. Up to 4 hours flying time. Up to 10kg payload and max 40km/h wind!Check it out here. Eblimp.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselnDust Posted January 24, 2019 Share I think I might have found another option. Electric lighter-than-air blimp s. Up to 4 hours flying time. Up to 10kg payload and max 40km/h wind!Check it out here. Eblimp.com thats where I'm headed. Its the only viable option Long range is also possible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisF Posted January 24, 2019 Share true true but the drone delivering high quality images in zoom and or wide angle isn't going to be a little DJI Mavic Pro.... I wonder if the average person understands just HOW big these drones can be !! Our sister company is into electronics .. .they have tested MANY drones. WOW !! Some of those things can cause serious damage if it crashes .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselnDust Posted January 24, 2019 Share I wonder if the average person understands just HOW big these drones can be !! Our sister company is into electronics .. .they have tested MANY drones. WOW !! Some of those things can cause serious damage if it crashes .... flying dust bins falling from the sky can cause a lot of property damage especially if the battery catches alight in the process. Unfortunately most people associate the word drone with a DJI Phantom, Spark or Mavic, or Parrot quadcopters.The Correct term should be UAV but that term conjures up images of weaponised unmanned systems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grubscrew Posted January 24, 2019 Share One word. Nope. 3 words. Not Enough Power. 4: Efficiency is not sufficientOnly if you're talking copter type drones, which are very power inefficient. Fixed wing drones can easily fly on solar for as long as the sun shines, and longer... Also easy to get 2 hour + flight times from batteries alone with fixed wing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave303e Posted January 25, 2019 Share Swissdrone would really do damage crashing into your house, 45kg with Turbine engine and tank of Jet A1 fuel. Never mind dropping on a group of Sky team gear clad MAMIL's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Fastbastard Mayhem Posted January 25, 2019 Share Only if you're talking copter type drones, which are very power inefficient. Fixed wing drones can easily fly on solar for as long as the sun shines, and longer... Also easy to get 2 hour + flight times from batteries alone with fixed wing. Yeah, but at this point those solar powered glider drones are nowhere near capable enough to support a commercial filming operation, which is what the helis do. Again, you have the separate filming and POV roles that need to be adhered to, and the glider drones are far less maneuverable than a heli or copter drone. Not saying it won't be possible in the future, but the very benefit of the copters and copter-drones is their ability to hover and change direction without having to do a fly-by. For filming things like the Dakar, WRC etc, that's a critical component of the operation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselnDust Posted January 25, 2019 Share As a camera platform for following close in action a Glider sucks. Yes they offer STOL, even STOVL if the pilot is skilled enough ( you can fly them real slow) but they don't fly sideways so can't provide side on footage.The only aerial platform that ticks all the boxes currently is a blimp.But they do need to be fairly large to carry a decent camera array. The bouyancy of Helium being the key issue here. Still, it doesn't have the flexibility of a chopper. as they can't land very quickly and they need a well trained ground to handle them so not necessarily cheaper to operate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave303e Posted January 25, 2019 Share Yeah, but at this point those solar powered glider drones are nowhere near capable enough to support a commercial filming operation, which is what the helis do. Again, you have the separate filming and POV roles that need to be adhered to, and the glider drones are far less maneuverable than a heli or copter drone. Not saying it won't be possible in the future, but the very benefit of the copters and copter-drones is their ability to hover and change direction without having to do a fly-by. For filming things like the Dakar, WRC etc, that's a critical component of the operation. Nevermind dakar, have you seen the helicopters at the Isle of Man, you realise that a drone would struggle to follow a full lap there at that pace and manage to film well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Fastbastard Mayhem Posted January 25, 2019 Share Nevermind dakar, have you seen the helicopters at the Isle of Man, you realise that a drone would struggle to follow a full lap there at that pace and manage to film wellHAHAHA!!! Yeah, definitely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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