ajnkzn Posted January 22, 2019 Share Can someone who is in the know explain to me why you still see 1 - 3 helicopters doing the filming at big races like Epic, Tankwa Trek etc? Surely it's a) cheaperb) more environmentally friendly in terms of fuel and noise and servicing etcc) safer to have drones and pilots deployed along the route at key points that warrant filming? I am obviously wrong but it seems like a bit of a "look at me" thing for race directors et al to zoom around in choppers. I am obviously not suggesting that no helis be involved, one has to have heli Medivacs available. Grubscrew and Mr. G 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddy Gordo Posted January 22, 2019 Share As far as I understand, drones are restricted to model plane air fields as per law. I could be wrong, things might have changed. Quagga 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sawystertrance Posted January 22, 2019 Share What is the range and operating time of a drone v that of a helicopter? Isn't that a factor? GaryvdM and raptor 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allrounder Posted January 22, 2019 Share I also thought about this while watching the Dakar. Why not lock a drone onto a car, and where the car goes the drone goes? Much more footage than the 30 minute repeats. And the proper drones can calculate when they need to return to base when the battery runs out. Same as the drones. Surely if the race is in moerlandspan, getting authorization to fly below 150 meters can not be that difficult? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Fastbastard Mayhem Posted January 22, 2019 Share Run-time. Pure and simple. Multiple hours vs minutes. Unless you're talking military or super high level commercial drones, which come with their own problems and pricing issues. Edited January 22, 2019 by Captain Fatbastard Mayhem Bat, GaryvdM, bikebloke and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bikebloke Posted January 22, 2019 Share yeah its this .. DJR, Tatt, deonkretch and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grease_Monkey Posted January 22, 2019 Share Live feeds vs recorded feeds. Capricorn and GrahamS2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohanDiv Posted January 22, 2019 Share Did this Lily drone ever make it to market? Would be awesome if they asked one member of a team to use a follow drone like this. Guess the limitations are the 20min battery life and live broadcasting from a drone. AdamA 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselnDust Posted January 22, 2019 Share To fly a drone beyond visual range requires airframe licensing that is economically unrecoverable for the operators. Range is limited by weight and battery capacity. Not many pilots in the system who are capable and licensed to fly bvr. Loiter time is limited Close up visuals are hard to track. Most drones use wide angle lens cameras The technology is existent Captain Fastbastard Mayhem, AdamA and DJR 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shebeen Posted January 22, 2019 Share theme music. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l8syGlAMTKAdrones just don't have decent tunes, they drone. it's in the name andreas17777, Dirt Tracker, WeekendWarrior80 and 12 others 15 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselnDust Posted January 22, 2019 Share Did this Lily drone ever make it to market? Would be awesome if they asked one member of a team to use a follow drone like this. Guess the limitations are the 20min battery life and live broadcasting from a drone.No the DJi mavic beat it to market with similar features JohanDiv 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matchstix Posted January 22, 2019 Share theme music. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l8syGlAMTKAdrones just don't have decent tunes, they drone. it's in the nameI would not mind a chopper like the one airwolf was based on.That said, this is an awesome pilot.https://youtu.be/AcDU2JpX_rk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bertusras Posted January 22, 2019 Share Run-time. Pure and simple. Multiple hours vs minutes. Unless you're talking military or super high level commercial drones, which come with their own problems and pricing issues. Live feeds vs recorded feeds. ^^^^^^^^ Capricorn and Grease_Monkey 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Fastbastard Mayhem Posted January 22, 2019 Share Live feeds vs recorded feeds.This, too. Live feeds also introduce their own issues wrt weight and such. A military drone is not a small thing... Grease_Monkey 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselnDust Posted January 22, 2019 Share This, too. Live feeds also introduce their own issues wrt weight and such. A military drone is not a small thing...Well they can be. Depends what you want it to do. Anything that flies long range missions will need fuel and a facility to refuel. So if tight spaces is the only option then we're talking about a rotary wing airframe. Control bvr will need to via satellite or rf amplifier which brings additional problems wrt access to satellites or RF licensing. Like you say if its military spec it's going to be big money and the insurance on that is more expensive than hiring a chopper per hour. It's not an easy problem to solve on a sports media company budget...The problem is essentially economics and a few legal hurdles with the FAA and CAA Captain Fastbastard Mayhem 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Fastbastard Mayhem Posted January 22, 2019 Share Well they can be. Depends what you want it to do. Anything that flies long range missions will need fuel and a facility to refuel. So if tight spaces is the only option then we're talking about a rotary wing airframe. Control bvr will need to via satellite or rf amplifier which brings additional problems wrt access to satellites or RF licensing. Like you say if its military spec it's going to be big money and the insurance on that is more expensive than hiring a chopper per hour. It's not an easy problem to solve on a sports media company budget...The problem is essentially economics and a few legal hurdles with the FAA and CAAYeah, as soon as you introduce range and longevity (of service) you get mucho problemo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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