Money no object build.

[madbradd]

I’ve always liked this English bike.

I’d probably want it with a Di-hub internal gearing to have the option of gearing if needed, but not sure if it’s available with the single “dropout” mount.

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Here’s the build cost from their website:

 

Base frame price: $3200

This includes:

Complete custom geometry and design

A custom blend of tubing to suit the design and intended purpose, ranging from Columbus Life to hand machined/formed 4130 cromoly

Fillet brazing

Single coat powder finish, with painted logos under clear.

Limited lifetime warranty (for the original purchaser)

Some 0ptions:

Integrated steel seatmast (with custom adjustable cap): $600

Integrated Enve carbon seatmast (with custom adjustable cap): $1200

Internal gear cable routing: $100

Internal routing for Di2: $200

Internal rear brake cable routing: $100

Custom wet paint by Colorworks: from $400

Niner Eccentric BB: $200

Split dropout for beltdrive: $150

Custom stem: from $400

Fork built to match: from $700

ENVE carbon fork with frame: from $400

English folding frame system: from $650

Custom racks: from $350

 

https://www.englishcycles.com/pricelist/

 

That drivetrain outside the chainstay... just looks like the belt is going to fall off!

[Frosty]

If the belt was going to fall off, the chain stay won’t make a difference - with the right tension, it should remain in place.

This design allows the removal/installation of the belt without the problems of a fixed chain stay.

 

edit: some info on the belt drive system

 

WHAT ARE THE BENEFITS TO THE CARBON DRIVE SYSTEM?

• Clean - No Lubrication means no greasy build up of dirt, keeping your hands, clothes, and children clean. 
• Smooth – The Carbon Drive system eliminates the metal-to-metal contact of chains, delivering an unparalleled smoothness that you need to feel to believe.
• No Noise – The Carbon Drive belt is virtually silent in most riding conditions.
• Light Weight – the entire system, 2 sprockets and a belt, weighs less than just a typical chain.
• No Stretch – The Carbon Drive belt does not stretch over time like a chain. This means you don’t have to re-tension the belt, or replace the belt due to stretch. 
• Self-Cleaning – The patented CenterTrack and MudPort profiles were designed specifically to shed mud, dirt, snow and other debris to meet the needs and environmental challenges of a bicycle.
• Life – Testing has shown the Carbon Drive belt to last more than twice the life of chains.
• Consistent Efficiency - the Carbon Drive belt provides consistent efficiency over the lifetime of the drive. In contrast, chain efficiency decreases with wear and dirt.

WHAT ARE THE DRAWBACKS OF USING A CARBON DRIVE SYSTEM?

Because a belt cannot be broken and then reattached, the Carbon Drive System requires a belt-compatible frame. A belt also needs center distance adjustment for installation and proper tensioning. Methods include horizontally adjustable dropouts, eccentric bottom brackets, or eccentric hubs.

Edited April 14, 2020 by Frosty

[Patchelicious]

Factor O2 Frame 

Dura Ace Di2

Black Inc Wheels and cockpit

[Patchelicious]

Bastion Frame must is starting to creep onto the wish list.

 

[madbradd]

If the belt was going to fall off, the chain stay won’t make a difference - with the right tension, it should remain in place.

 

This design allows the removal/installation of the belt without the problems of a fixed chain stay.

 

edit: some info on the belt drive system

 

WHAT ARE THE BENEFITS TO THE CARBON DRIVE SYSTEM?

• Clean - No Lubrication means no greasy build up of dirt, keeping your hands, clothes, and children clean. 
• Smooth – The Carbon Drive system eliminates the metal-to-metal contact of chains, delivering an unparalleled smoothness that you need to feel to believe.
• No Noise – The Carbon Drive belt is virtually silent in most riding conditions.
• Light Weight – the entire system, 2 sprockets and a belt, weighs less than just a typical chain.
• No Stretch – The Carbon Drive belt does not stretch over time like a chain. This means you don’t have to re-tension the belt, or replace the belt due to stretch. 
• Self-Cleaning – The patented CenterTrack and MudPort profiles were designed specifically to shed mud, dirt, snow and other debris to meet the needs and environmental challenges of a bicycle.
• Life – Testing has shown the Carbon Drive belt to last more than twice the life of chains.
• Consistent Efficiency - the Carbon Drive belt provides consistent efficiency over the lifetime of the drive. In contrast, chain efficiency decreases with wear and dirt.

WHAT ARE THE DRAWBACKS OF USING A CARBON DRIVE SYSTEM?

Because a belt cannot be broken and then reattached, the Carbon Drive System requires a belt-compatible frame. A belt also needs center distance adjustment for installation and proper tensioning. Methods include horizontally adjustable dropouts, eccentric bottom brackets, or eccentric hubs.

 

I know it wouldn't make a difference. It just looks like that. so used to seeing the frame on the outside, the other way round just makes it look strange (different). 

[Frosty]

That’s one reason why I like that frame... it’s not like an ordinary build.

[madbradd]

That’s one reason why I like that frame... it’s not like an ordinary build.

 

Yeah. I get that completely. It's like the "righty" fork, the brake rotors on the right, the front brake mount, the front brake cable routing etc.

[splat]

THIS!!!

 

 

Oh Crikey.

Yes, pretty much anything from Baum.

I know very little about their bikes, but with those paint jobs they can ride like a penny farthing for all I care 

[splat]

Factor O2 Frame 

Dura Ace Di2

Black Inc Wheels and cockpit

 

Isn't that you current bike ?

Post a pic to remind us 

[Pikey]

Isn't that you current bike ?

Post a pic to remind us 

This maybe ?