Hood reach comparison

[Bike Dewing]

16 minutes ago, The Ouzo said:

I think it is as what was said above, depends on teh bike geometry.

I went from 110mm to 80mm stem and at the same time went from 440mm to 420mm bars on my road bike I cant say I feel the twitchiness you describe.

Yeah okay get that.. i went to 90 from 100(might have been 105 but that seemed weird and maybe i was measuring wrong..)

so stuck a 90 and richard the bike fit guy was happy with it.. i then went to ruan who took over for richard and he suggested the handling wouldn't be affected much..

i tried an 80 and it didnt make me feel good.. but the reach was good, it was comfy.. ill try again when im more confident on the bike..

but what i really need is a 53 size frame.. on a 54 now

Edited Tuesday at 10:49 AM by Bike Dewing

[The Ouzo]

7 minutes ago, Bike Dewing said:

so stuck a 90 and richard the bike fit guy

It was Richard that got me to make the changes

 

7 minutes ago, Bike Dewing said:

but what i really need is a 53 size frame.. on a 54 now

similar situation, I really should be on a smaller frame than what I have.

[Bike Dewing]

9 minutes ago, The Ouzo said:

It was Richard that got me to make the changes

 

similar situation, I really should be on a smaller frame than what I have.

Im finding this is often the case.. 

what did he say, short legs for my torso, or the other way around.. 

but he actually also just rotated my handlebars downwards but then my hoods he moved upwards and inwards slightly.. it improved my reach a hell of a lot.. 

my follow up was with ruan about a year later.. no issues with him at all.. lovely guy..

but i believe its easier to fit a larger bike than a bike thats too small..

Edited Tuesday at 11:05 AM by Bike Dewing

[SSCC]

15 minutes ago, Bike Dewing said:

I have no idea who he is.. 

You are like Bike fit James. 

John is like Neill Stanbury. 

IYKYK

[The Ouzo]

3 minutes ago, Bike Dewing said:

Im finding this is often the case.. 

what did he say, short legs for my torso, or the other way around.. 

but he actually also just rotated my handlebars downwards but then my hoods he moved upwards and inwards slightly.. it improved my reach a hell of a lot.. 

my follow up was with ruan about a year later.. no issues with him at all.. lovely guy..

I think each fitter has their own theories and experiences, you can probably got to 3 different fitters and get 3 different fits.

[Bike Dewing]

1 minute ago, SSCC said:

You are like Bike fit James. 

John is like Neill Stanbury. 

IYKYK

Oh ive watched him a ton as well.. i did a lot of my own research and testing before actually going to a fitter.. i didnt f$&k anything up too badly..🥳🤣

[Bike Dewing]

2 minutes ago, The Ouzo said:

I think each fitter has their own theories and experiences, you can probably got to 3 different fitters and get 3 different fits.

Maaaate.. i went from solomons in woodmead and every bike shop between there and broadacres.. (theres a few).. when buying my first hardtail.. my size changed from small to medium to large from shop to shop.. 

Its frightening out there as a noob

[Bike Dewing]

3 hours ago, SSCC said:

It really depends on the bike. Many modern geo gravel bikes come with 70 or 80mm stems. The bike bike radar voted as best road bike a year or two ago comes with an 80mm stem in a size large. Head tube angle, reach, fork off set all play a role. 

I want to come back here though for a second.. what bike was that.? Aero bike or endurance bike.?  it possible that it had longer wheelbase that stabilized it despite the short stem maybe.? 
 

Discussing this might be a better use of our time.? 🤷🏼‍♂️🤣

[DieselnDust]

My take on this is once you know the differences each brake hood design brings to your “reach” on the bike you have to co wider its impact on your overall position on the bike as well. Some hoods are longer but the palm is supported further back which can actually shorten the real reach. Feel is a good way to determine if the fit is an improvement but that feel should be gauged after an hour in the saddle once the placibo of change has abated 

[Jbr]

5 hours ago, J Wakefield said:

Hoods do change and have. Example the new SRAM is 5mm longer than previous and shimano from Di2 11 to 12 is also longer at 4m.

the difference of 8000 to di2 you asked is 8mm in length 

Thanks, I was wondering if going for the new sram red shifters would mean I'd need shorter stem, looks like it's a yes !

[Bike Dewing]

14 minutes ago, DieselnDust said:

My take on this is once you know the differences each brake hood design brings to your “reach” on the bike you have to co wider its impact on your overall position on the bike as well. Some hoods are longer but the palm is supported further back which can actually shorten the real reach. Feel is a good way to determine if the fit is an improvement but that feel should be gauged after an hour in the saddle once the placibo of change has abated 

Well yeah i had these old 105 shifter when i did my first fitting.. big bulky things.. they packed up and i managed to get ultegra R8020 i think.. also made a big difference to my reach.. 

[J Wakefield]

1 hour ago, Bike Dewing said:

But in this instance i feel he was correct.. as i tried it.. 

otherwise i wouldnt have said anything🤷🏼‍♂️.. 

why do you disregard what he says.? 
i found him to be correct there, and i share his love of Lake.. very good shoe maker.. 

do you go by Dr J Wakefield.?

it feels like haters will hate on this one🤣🤣🤣

Sometimes yes. 

Sometimes no. 

[SSCC]

45 minutes ago, Bike Dewing said:

Oh ive watched him a ton as well.. i did a lot of my own research and testing before actually going to a fitter.. i didnt f$&k anything up too badly..🥳🤣

That may have been too cryptic. 

One is full of bluster and hot air.

The other is a master of his craft. 

 

[Bike Dewing]

16 minutes ago, SSCC said:

That may have been too cryptic. 

One is full of bluster and hot air.

The other is a master of his craft. 

 

No i get exactly what you were saying there.. i chose to ignore it.. 

i think thats just how the british sound to us..🤣🤣🤣

[Bike Dewing]

25 minutes ago, J Wakefield said:

Sometimes yes. 

Sometimes no. 

Well, sh$t.. maybe Ritalin is the correct answer for me then🤣.. 

[thebob]

The said doctor at work.

@J Wakefield do you have any fitters you would recommend in SA?