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1 is made in China, 1 is made in Japan. 

Many people have Magura MT range brakes which quite possibly have the worst, least reliable levers made of cheese.

They really were/are terrible

BUT the big S specced them on all their mid range bikes for years, so nobody bats an eyelid. 

Don't look now, but a large number of Spez bikes are currently specced with Temu/ali brakes now. For real.

I'd be tempted to pair the calipers with less adjustable levers as most levers with any sort of easy twist reach adjust are, well, too adjustable and get weaker as prolonged pressure is applied 

A closed hydraulic system isn't rocket science. It isn't going to explode and burn your face off. At worst one brake gets spongy on you and you try a trail fix or nurse it home. 

I was looking at the 2pot flat mount calipers for my gravel bike. They look really cool

IMHO those single pot Hopes are rubbish. Had a set of them and the E4s and preferred my cheap as chips Shimano ZEE

Just to conclude, these will be as good or better than a lot of branded stuff and more than good enough for 90% of us

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44 minutes ago, Bro Derek said:

1 is made in China, 1 is made in Japan. 

Many people have Magura MT range brakes which quite possibly have the worst, least reliable levers made of cheese.

They really were/are terrible

BUT the big S specced them on all their mid range bikes for years, so nobody bats an eyelid. 

Don't look now, but a large number of Spez bikes are currently specced with Temu/ali brakes now. For real.

I'd be tempted to pair the calipers with less adjustable levers as most levers with any sort of easy twist reach adjust are, well, too adjustable and get weaker as prolonged pressure is applied 

A closed hydraulic system isn't rocket science. It isn't going to explode and burn your face off. At worst one brake gets spongy on you and you try a trail fix or nurse it home. 

I was looking at the 2pot flat mount calipers for my gravel bike. They look really cool

IMHO those single pot Hopes are rubbish. Had a set of them and the E4s and preferred my cheap as chips Shimano ZEE

Just to conclude, these will be as good or better than a lot of branded stuff and more than good enough for 90% of us

Which post mount calipers are you looking at for your gravel bike?

To use with Sram levers?

thanks👍… if you could send a Temu link please 

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On 7/23/2025 at 8:04 PM, guidodg said:

Which post mount calipers are you looking at for your gravel bike?

To use with Sram levers?

thanks👍… if you could send a Temu link please 

I was looking at these flat mount calipers. They look fantastic. But Mineral oil 

https://www.temu.com/za/-cnc-hydraulic-disc-brake-clamp-for-road-bikes-aluminum-alloy-flat-handlebar-brake-adapter-with--adjustable-clamp---part-mountain-bike-accessories-sleek-metallic--precision-engineering-bike-maintenance-g-601102124470062.html

 

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On 7/23/2025 at 7:17 PM, Bro Derek said:

Many people have Magura MT range brakes which quite possibly have the worst, least reliable levers made of cheese.

They really were/are terrible

You either love or hate Magura. Mine are rock solid and by far the best brakes out of all the brakes in our family. Best modulation, best stoppage, haven’t needed an ounce of work since fitted 3 years ago except one set of new pads. I’m not enduro fast but I won’t turn away from a good downhill at pace. I’m a two-finger (sometimes one-finger) front/rear balancer using my brakes to balance my momentum with light touches. They work absolutely flawlessly, and I’ve never locked up or gone OTB because of my brakes.

So I think appreciation of brakes is relative.

I am not a fan of XT brakes for example. And on our one bike we have Formula C1 on the rear which is very close to my Magura for me, where most people hate them. 

If it modulates well and stops exactly when and how I ask, I’m game. No spongy levers, no dead spot feel, no pulling to the bar, no screaming. 

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1 minute ago, RobynE 🚵‍♀️ said:

You either love or hate Magura. Mine are rock solid and by far the best brakes out of all the brakes in our family. Best modulation, best stoppage, haven’t needed an ounce of work since fitted 3 years ago except one set of new pads. I’m not enduro fast but I won’t turn away from a good downhill at pace. I’m a two-finger (sometimes one-finger) front/rear balancer using my brakes to balance my momentum with light touches. They work absolutely flawlessly, and I’ve never locked up or gone OTB because of my brakes.

So I think appreciation of brakes is relative.

I am not a fan of XT brakes for example. And on our one bike we have Formula C1 on the rear which is very close to my Magura for me, where most people hate them. 

If it modulates well and stops exactly when and how I ask, I’m game. No spongy levers, no dead spot feel, no pulling to the bar, no screaming. 

I absolutely agree on Maguras...have used them for over a decade on all my bikes...never an issue

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1 hour ago, RobynE 🚵‍♀️ said:

You either love or hate Magura. Mine are rock solid and by far the best brakes out of all the brakes in our family. Best modulation, best stoppage, haven’t needed an ounce of work since fitted 3 years ago except one set of new pads. I’m not enduro fast but I won’t turn away from a good downhill at pace. I’m a two-finger (sometimes one-finger) front/rear balancer using my brakes to balance my momentum with light touches. They work absolutely flawlessly, and I’ve never locked up or gone OTB because of my brakes.

So I think appreciation of brakes is relative.

I am not a fan of XT brakes for example. And on our one bike we have Formula C1 on the rear which is very close to my Magura for me, where most people hate them. 

If it modulates well and stops exactly when and how I ask, I’m game. No spongy levers, no dead spot feel, no pulling to the bar, no screaming. 

My issue with Magura brakes, especially the 'S' series as stated, is the levers are made of cheese. The reach adjust and bleed screws are made of rubber/plastic and the seals and end stops on the plunger are incredibly easy to damage. 

Performance wise I have had huge success marrying Shimano levers to Magura calipers  - The hardyness and easy use of Shimano levers with modulation and feel. 

No one can ever convince me that the levers on the Spez bikes weren't a complete pile of absolute dung. I worked on enough bikes in that era to see hundreds of them disintegrate 

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The brakeset arrived, branded 'Speedzone Soldier 2'

9 Days from ordering, 3 of which was trying to hook up with local courier for delivery (If only they had a locker system for pickup like Pudo)

Instruction sheet in Chinese.

Anyway, initial impressions on the look & feel: not too shabby.  

All parts are machined, finish is nice. Except cooling fins, those are die cast. Levers are quite hefty and one adjustment for rake. I will replace the zinc plated steel bolt in the lever for a SS one.

Bleeding: looks like there is a torqx on the caliper which you need to open. Think I will order a universal bleeding kit (with mineral oil) from Takealot, R299.

Going to have reconnect the front, I have that lever on the RHS.

I'll install and see how it goes.

 

Update: 4mm Allen Bolt in/on lever bracket was SS (ish)

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Order a universal bleed kit from Temu for R150. I'm very happy with mine, the syringes are great.

You may get away with switching hoses without a bleed if you are careful. Can be done with Shimano.

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On 8/14/2025 at 1:26 PM, kosmonooit said:

The brakeset arrived, branded 'Speedzone Soldier 2'

9 Days from ordering, 3 of which was trying to hook up with local courier for delivery (If only they had a locker system for pickup like Pudo)

Instruction sheet in Chinese.

Anyway, initial impressions on the look & feel: not too shabby.  

All parts are machined, finish is nice. Except cooling fins, those are die cast. Levers are quite hefty and one adjustment for rake. I will replace the zinc plated steel bolt in the lever for a SS one.

Bleeding: looks like there is a torqx on the caliper which you need to open. Think I will order a universal bleeding kit (with mineral oil) from Takealot, R299.

Going to have reconnect the front, I have that lever on the RHS.

I'll install and see how it goes.

 

Update: 4mm Allen Bolt in/on lever bracket was SS (ish)

 

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