STOLEN BIKE MARKET

[Spartikus]

In light of the recent bikejacking, marking your bike witht he micro dot is discrete and unique to each individual so if it is found the chance of you getting it back is much greater especially to those who do not have insurance on their equipment and we ALL know the value of our equipmet!!!

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Spartikus2008-10-13 03:03:18

[markStockton]

No, simply because the police will not scan the bike / item, therefore rendering it futile. 

[Spartikus]

The dot is aimed more towards the cycling community itself so if a bike is stolen and is taken to a bike shop to be recirculated into the market it will be picked up as the bike shops are getting on board with the concept AND reciveri themselves have guys who go to the 13 store on a weekly basis with the UV lights and micro scopes (sniffer dogs) and the dot is used on all your household items so it does not only benifit in one area.

[Hog_]

Since you're spamming us with your product, do you have any case studies to show the effectiveness of your product? Also, how many police stations in the country are currently looking for UV dots on recovered goods? How many police stations even know that the little glowing bits are Recoveri tags? What if the stolen item get sprayed? Would the tag still be visible?

 

I just don't think the police care if there's a tag on an item, and they have bigger things to deal with than getting my bike back to me. I'd rather let my insurance buy me a new one.

 

 

 

[intern]

While Hog's tone is a bit harsh, the points he makes are valid...as is MarkStockton's comment. In my experience of dealing with the police (as a victim, I hasten to add!!!) they are utterly useless and don't care a damn for your problems.

[Red Zone]

Chances are the bike is going to end up in a township, be sprayed with cheep paint and riden until it breaks.

Also the dot will add weight to the bike, this is unacceptable!

[ShortLegs]

Geat idea Spartikus........ if you live in London

[jeremyd]

 

I bought the product and put it on my bike. I have been told that spraypaint won't adhere to the glue that holds the dots. (but i"m not prepared to spray over my frame to test that theory). I put this out there a couple of weeks ago and didn't get much reaction from the hub other than turtlek. Mark and Hog, I hear what you're saying but firstly, there are instances where the police have been efficient (though they may be few and far between) and if there is the slightest chance  that you get your bike back for a very low investment (it was R195 give or take) is that not worth it? Secondly, right now, if someone stole your bike and walked into a bike shop, they could sell it and know one would be any the wiser. Now, if we could get all bike shops to buy into this concept and ge them to check a bike dot before they buy the bike we would be cutting off at least one avenue for people to sell stolen bikes. The more people who become aware of this the better. Recoveri is a lot cheaper than micro dot and can be used on all your goods at hme, but the issue here is how do we get the whole biking community to buy into this? 

jeremyd2008-10-13 03:20:00

[Spartikus]

Firstly tje dot is almost invisable to the naked eye so weighs nothing, secondly the adhesive paint used in the solution to put it on the bike does not let any other solution bond to it

As far as WHO KNOWS ABOUT THIS?!?!?!?!?

The police have a procedure to follow and the equiment to check for the mcro dots i.e microscopes and UV lights

Obviuosly f you dont mark it on the site that it is stolen they wont know, there are also guys who work for recoveri that go to ALL 13th stores at police stations and look for the goods market with dots.

We also are in negotiation with ALL bike stores to carry the equipment needed to check for dots.

[TNT1]

Ok, nevermind the coppers, what do the insurance companies say about this? I mean it's a similar idea to the tracking device things, and that needed insurance co. buy in before the public started using it widely.

[Hog_]

 

Firstly tje dot is almost invisable to the naked eye so weighs nothing' date=' secondly the adhesive paint used in the solution to put it on the bike does not let any other solution bond to it

As far as WHO KNOWS ABOUT THIS?!?!?!?!?

The police have a procedure to follow and the equiment to check for the mcro dots i.e microscopes and UV lights

Obviuosly f you dont mark it on the site that it is stolen they wont know, there are also guys who work for recoveri that go to ALL 13th stores at police stations and look for the goods market with dots.

We also are in negotiation with ALL bike stores to carry the equipment needed to check for dots.

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Cool, that does answer a few queries. Have you had a lot of recoveries?

 

I'm not sure how often bike stores are involved in the sale of stolen goods. Surely if a guy who obviously isn't a cyclist walks in with a R15k bike they wouldn't accept it. I think a bigger problem is 2nd-hand stores. I do agree wholeheartedly that stopping the market for stolen goods will help.

 

 

 

[Spartikus]

The idea has been put forward to the insurance companies, some car insurances have picked up the concept and now it is getting exposed to household and cycling insurance!!!!

[Spartikus]

Second Hand stores is a good point and the powerss that be are looking into it as I believe the LARGER ones can make use of it for a start and as the concept catches on it will expand

It really is a small prie to pay R199 to atleast have the chance of getting it back more so for those who dont have insurance and secondly for the insurance company t recover some kind of cost for the replacements that they are paying for

[Dotty]

Hi Spartikus. If I may add to your comments. We all know that SAPS have more important things to do than investigate crime. However, all new policeman coming out of police colledge over the last 24 months have had microdot traing at police colledge as an aid to investigate and proactively prevent crime. It has taken time for their adoption; but on the bright side the younger, keener cops are looking for the technology and using it to track assets back to owners. Insurance stats show that motor vehicle hijacking and theft has been reduced by up to 70% (crime syndicates don't buy microdotted vehicles as they can't remove all 15,000 from a vehicle as it is too time consuming). The theory is if you stop buying stolen goods criminals won't be able to sell their stolen goods; so they won't  steal anymore. All potential buyers of bikes should subscribe to this. After all I think it's up to us as a community to do something. If all bike shop owners microdotted bikes as they sold them and checked for stolen bikes before they bought them this would be a brilliant crime prevention strategy! By the way Santam and all insurance companies have seen the benefit of microtag technology and may be making it compulsory in the future.

[Piernas Flacas]

Question: is there a possibility the thieves are destroying the bikes and selling them as scrap metal?

[Spartikus]

There is that possibility but i personally think a bike is more valuable all pieces present and accounted for!!!!