Most sensitive topic for 2006

[pastapouch]

No thanx we descent fast enough!!!!!

 

ah, only because of your weight...

[E1A104]

I wonder if Basso will keep his dealer or if he will also dump him and use the disco pharmacist?

[Delgado]

So the rumour IS true then ..... Tandems riders do go down faster than the rest of us!!!

 

Down where??

[E1A104]

Ask Britney, Ronaldo, Rooney or Muscle Mary ........

[Hype]

The reasons listed by Big H are completely skewed.

 

Shimano made bombs ? Great. That's like saying Coke is better than Pepsi because Dr John Pemberton made a good meatball sauce. WTF ?

 

 

 

When comparing two articles it's better to use practical facts. Like Britney's boobs feel better than that chicks from Hugh's playboy mansion because Britney's are salt water bags and that blonde bimbo's are silicone - that kind of analysis.

 

 

 

E1A104 I'm impressed by your knowledge. Glad you listed the Campag "firsts" which Big H didn't.

[Guest Big H]

Hype, you only list one "reason" to prove I am skewed and of course you will be prejudiced..... you are xcentric and ride Kempek. I am a discerning cyclist who knows when a product is inferior or not. I am however not a specialist.

 

O yes another reason is  LANCE USED SHIMANO...... somebody who KNOWS and can discern "the sh!t that will kill us" would have chosen Kempekkernoglia if it was better. He did use Kepek on his Fondriets when he rode for Motorola. Why did he not continiue using it..... ok give us one of your one sided and witty reasons.!!!!!!!

[E1A104]

And your comments are balanced? Eddy Merckx only used Campagnolo and as we all know he was a far better cyclist than la could ever hope to be.  The day la can do the Giro/TDF double not 1,not 2 but 3 times then perhaps he can be mentioned in the same breath as Eddy Merckx.

[fatcyclist]

LANCE USED SHIMANO......

everyone has their faults...

[Mudsimus]

So the rumour IS true then ..... Tandems riders do go down faster than the rest of us!!!

 

That explains alot......

[Hype]

The Pro's ride with what they are given. If Discovery chose to ride Giant bikes with FSA groups tomorrow he'd have to go along with it.

 

Lance doesn't choose Shimano.

 

 

 

And you listed Campy not supplying MTB's as a bad reason but now you're using road riders as a good example for Shimano. If road is the standard then let's stick to road.

 

 

 

And if you're using Pro's as an example then let's go by recent history ..... which is that the most recent winner of the Tour is Landis and he rode ..... CAMPAG. And if he gets disqualified the the winner will be Perreiro. And he rides ..... CAMPAG.

[Guest Big H]

Tour riders use what they are given to ride ..... as you so aptly and eloquently wrote.

 

[Hype]

I was following your example on the name dropping.

 

 

 

But you still give no practical reasons for Shimano's "superiority".

 

Weight, price, feel, performance, etc.

 

 

[E1A104]

Except Merckx who insisted on only using Campagnolo ..... wise man.  How is this for a decent CV

 

Milan - San Remo	7
World Champs	3
Paris - Roubaix	3
Giro	5
Tour of Flanders	2
L-B-L	5
TDF	5
Giro de Lomabardia	2
Vuelta	1

and that excludes his track races.

[SwissVan]

I was following your example on the name dropping.

But you still give no practical reasons for Shimano's "superiority".
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Only 2 reasons worth worrying about - IMO

Shimano feels smoother and works better with less fuss.

Shimano parts available almost anywhere - try get a capmag thingy from your LBS without having to wait 4 months.

1 PLUS for Campag, Clean handle bars with no brake / gear cables blocking the view.

 

 

 

[Mudsimus]

Only 2 reasons worth worrying about - IMO

Shimano feels smoother and works better with less fuss.

Shimano parts available almost anywhere - try get a capmag thingy from your LBS without having to wait 4 months.

 

 

1. Shimano agents wont/cant repair broken sti's

2. Campag agents have all spares available and can repair ergo's.

[Hype]

Ahhhh .... with Campy who needs parts ?

 

No problems, no parts.

 

Yes, the Shimano has a smoothness and it took a few rides to get used to the more mechanical changes of Campag but I certainly don't miss the way my Ultegra set used to jump two gears when trying to do a single gear change.

 

Gear trimming is also made easier with Campag's system.

 

As I said .... boils down to personal choie but at least we have some true "reasons" for Shimano now.