NotSoBigBen Posted November 4, 2008 Share Lil' Ben says that it doesn't matter how comfortable crocs are they still look frikkin stoopid .......... but I do wear them myself!hahaha' date=' they must be REALLY comfy!My worst was seeing the SA Olympic team all kitted out with their AWESOME green CROCS. [/quote'] Some may remember me trying to ride the last lap at 24hr 2007 with them .................. was that you??????????????????? we had a huge laugh at the dork with crocs on sorry dude - just rode back to the tent and put the 'real' shoes on and did the lap! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turtlek Posted November 4, 2008 Share Lil' Ben says that it doesn't matter how comfortable crocs are they still look frikkin stoopid .......... but I do wear them myself!hahaha' date=' they must be REALLY comfy!My worst was seeing the SA Olympic team all kitted out with their AWESOME green CROCS. [/quote'] ? Some may remember me trying to ride the last lap at 24hr 2007 with them .................. was that you??????????????????? we had a huge laugh at the dork with crocs on sorry dude ? ?- just rode back to the tent and put the 'real' shoes on and did the lap! there was a guy who actually rode a lap in his crocs i thought that might have been you he was riding a spez aswell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotSoBigBen Posted November 4, 2008 Share Nah luckily I was not that stoopid ............ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spartan SL Posted November 4, 2008 Share I once saw close to our local hijacking hot-spot, a dude wearing torn and ragged clothing, smoking a newspaper rolled cigarette, wearing gum boots on PDM pedals, cycling a new R25,000 Giant MTB. Now I'm no Sherlock Holmes, and neither am I a racist bigot, but if it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck........chances are, it's probably a duck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDEE Posted November 4, 2008 Share In line with whats being spoken about here... 3 years ago, my beloved old school Cro Mo Diamond Back Mtb was stolen from my garage.... 6 months later I was driving down Beyers Naude on my way to work.... And lo and behold, your avg gardener chappie comes walking up the hill pushing my beloved Diamond Back.... To cut a looooooooooong story short, he told the police he bought it from some chap on the side of the road.. This after I chased him a bit and had to hold him down until the police got there.. Still had my spds on the bike which was a bit of a giveaway to the police... Nevertheless, i got the bike back and as the chap was employed by a business in the area, we gave him the benefit of the doubt... My current tactic is keep and eye out and actively engage in conversation with people who look out of place on high end bicycles.. I offer to buy them at low money ( R500 ) with the plan of posting them up on the hub so that perhaps the original owner might spot it and I can give it back. Done it 3 times now and havent had any luck as yet... The first two werent that high end close up... but the 3 rd was a rather nice Scott Mtb with some decent goodies on it, Cane Creek Bar ends, Xt bits( spotted in Melville ). Chap told me his boss gave it too him and he couldnt sell it... I couldnt push the issue too far as I was attracting a crowd... But in none of the 3 cases was the chap offended and in fact seemed fairly pleased that I might want to buy the bike that they were on! KDEE2008-11-04 08:26:56 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirtbreath Posted November 4, 2008 Share Would this suspicion extend to a guy with shaved legs and yellow lycra booties on a mountain bike? To me that's a duck! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TNT1 Posted November 4, 2008 Share Now I'm no Sherlock Holmes' date=' and neither am I a racist bigot, but if it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck........chances are, it's probably a duck. [/quote'] or masood? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slave Posted November 5, 2008 Share The orginal intention was not to create any form of hype about racism.Have to agree though about the ducks and that was why I originally posted this topic. There are a lot of dudes who ride around our area on bikes and just don't look like they belong on them. Your overall wearing gardner / painter / labourer type looks very out of place on a smart bike, no matter which way you cut it. The question has to be raised: "How can this chap afford such a piece of equipment?" Then again, the black chap dressed to the nines in his cycling gear, riding a high-end bike on a training route, looks anything but "out of place." Colour has nothing to do with the issue. It's about anyone looking out of place on a serious racing or MTB and yes, it would raise a question in my mind if I saw anyone looking like a hobo, riding an expensive bike, whether you have just finished painting your garage or not. Chances are that you would not hop on your 20K bike in your crocs and slip down to the local corner cafe for a pack of smokes. Not sure how reliable the sources of info are, but I am told that the bike jackers have a pretty good idea of what these bikes can go for in the shops and they are inclined to go for the higher priced merchandise. So if the jackers know, the police should have a pretty good idea. Finally, a good friend of mine was shot and killed in a car jacking a year ago and the police were so useless, they still have no idea who the perps were. Car-jackings occur on a regular basis n our "hood" and still the cops do NOTHING. Criminals have too many rights and the cops are both powerless and useless to do anything about it. Yes, some if not most cops do good work with little financial reward for the risks they take, but I have to say, the quality of policing has become pathetic at best. There are far too many who just don't give a dam and there are also those who do, but cannot do anything about it because they don't have the power. Until the law is changed and criminals have the freedom that they do, we will continue to be prisoners in our self made jails and we will loose more and more of our own freedom. I would go so far as to say that we are less free now than we ever were before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Low Posted November 5, 2008 Share It's fair enough to notice the poor person on the R20k bike that folk are using as an example, but it's clear that it goes much further than that and to bikes of much lower values. Some posts talk about a whole range of suspicion factors they use to make judgements & to me that's quite a sad use of somebody's mind space and shows a negative predisposition. The thread is bound to be racial because we're only talking of suspecting black people to be on stolen bikes, we're not going to comb the start groups at the 94.7 for bikes acquired in a dodgy manner. How crazy to think about stopping someone to question them about where they got their possessions from, even if you are right. It's not about being right, to me it's about how unhappy must a person be to be driven this way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TNT1 Posted November 5, 2008 Share How crazy to think about stopping someone to question them about where they got their possessions from' date=' even if you are right. It's not about being right, to me it's about how unhappy must a person be to be driven this way. [/quote'] Exactly... next time I see the A4 with the 15 year old cannondale on the back, bugger the beer, I'm stopping him... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDEE Posted November 5, 2008 Share If I stop and chat to someone who clearly looks out of place on a bike, offer him R500 or so for his bike and he accepts and then I could maybe get it back to its original owner.....? Is there something wrong with me then... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slave Posted November 5, 2008 Share Apparently KDEE, I'm the one who is faulty. In the new South Africa, we are allowed to question the way things "work", which we were strongly discouraged from doing in the old one. Ever noticed how few things work in the new improved SA? Now there is a negative topic that I won't go into, because I do prefer the positive. It just galls me to the n'th degree that we must just accept that crime is out of control and live in fear of whether or not we will get back form our next training session, alive (1st prize) and with our bikes still in our possession (Bonus) or if we are actually going on a trianing route via the intesive care or the trauma ward because we got shot. Maybe it is negative, but damn, why do we have to live like this? It is wrong and just accepting it is wrong. We have to fight to get our freedom back and to stop living in constant fear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WillemT Posted November 5, 2008 Share This thread is about stolen bikes not coulor. In Stellenbosch 90% of the bike thieves turn out to be coulored or black so then the issue becomes one that coulor plays a part in because of the majority's colour not because people are racists or something.I had a bike stolen before and took it back when I spotted a guy riding it after about 3 months.Recently my girlfriend's scott mtb where stolen of her res's balcony and I have a good idea of who stole the bike and they happened to be coloured, so if I ride or drive thru stb and I see a coulored person on a bike(that doesn't look like he belongs on it) I look at the bike and try to see if it's a scott matching the one stolen and I don't think there's something wrong with that. By doing that I'm not being a racist, i'm just trying to get a stolen bike of 6 odd grand back using the the information I have to do it. If a guy murders someone and the police know it's a 6ft tall white guy, they are going to look for a six ft tall white guy, they're not discriminating against tall white people they're just using the info they have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mallo Posted November 5, 2008 Share night tider there is nothing wrong with your post above however read some of the others ESP sias then you will see what we are up against (Racist)that makes us take a stand and defend POC in general as well, remember CRIME knows no race, colour or creed. They hit at anyone anytime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turtlek Posted November 5, 2008 Share night tider there is nothing wrong with your post above however read some of the others ESP sias then you will see what we are up against (Racist)that makes us take a stand and defend POC in general as well' date=' remember CRIME knows no race, colour or creed. They hit at anyone anytime.[/quote'] Mallo not being nasty but i have read this whole post and you went on the defensive here and even said that you were a proud ANC card bearing member what did that have to do with anything Especially seeing as though your subjects that you suggested were all legitimate cyclists and most of us know them and wouldn't bat an eyelid if we saw them riding down the road on a new bike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sias Posted November 5, 2008 Share And I take a stand and defend white people (not all of them) angainst black/coloured racists like you and masood. And you call me a racist? You shouldn't throw stones my man...sias2008-11-05 04:52:19 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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