Better to train aerobic or anaerobic?

[jog5000]

Been doing quite a few spinning classes of late - the instructors dont work on HR, they work on pain... so which is better - Aerobic or Anaerobic? Any reasons?

 

Thanks.

 

[Daxiet]

 

Aerobic breads endurance, anaerobic improve bursts - quick sharp climbs, sprints and is good to do, but in moderation. If you want to ride long races or stage races you need more time in aerobic.

 

It seems spinning is all about anaerobic based on the pain statement.

 

Anaerobic also works to increase your LT, thus allowing you to operate in the 80% MHR +  for longer.

 

Daxiet2009-04-15 07:44:43

[zerocool]

Yea, depending on what you are training for.

 

 

[ASTANA]

The spinning classes I know off use HR - but the again its a more private studio thing not some gym with loads of PPL.

 

No use to train strength- anaerobic , most spinning ppl want to loose weight and lean - thus HR is important to train in the burning zone - thus aerobic training is required.

 

[Spinnekop]

VA used to have a few spinning classes with HR.  Even provided the HR monitors.

 

Nobody used it and it was abandoned.

 

So yes.  Spinning Instructors are left with perceived effort as a measure which is a mission.....

 

You have to combine anaerobic and aerobic, doing short 2min stuff in anaerobic and your long stuff in aerobic.

 

Good luck!

[jog5000]

I usually try keep my HR in the aerobic zone while spinning. This involves slacking off a bit while the rest of the class carries on having heart attacks. Its training for longer distances that I want....

 

I asked the one instructor at VA why they dont do HR classes - he says most people dont understand HR and think more sweat = more fitness.....

 

[turtlek]

I usually try keep my HR in the aerobic zone while spinning. This involves slacking off a bit while the rest of the class carries on having heart attacks. Its training for longer distances that I want....I asked the one instructor at VA why they dont do HR classes - he says most people dont understand HR and think more sweat = more fitness.....

 

 

 

 

that instructor is an idiot then because if he knows that then he is obviously thinking the same way instead of doing his job properly and helping people to understand what heart rate is and actually how important that little thing in your chest is...

 

 

 

all fun and games till someone overcooks it in a spinning class and drops dead due to the instructor going to the pain side of things

[Capri Wheeler]

works like this....you train aerobically and you push your lactate threshold.

When you peak, you work on anaerobic....

 

[boeing]

The issue isn't so black and white. Firstly, heart rate monitors should be used. RPE and the Borg scale are only useful when you have previously charted it against your own heart rate zones. The one zone isn't better than the other. Cycling is mainly an aerobic sport, however, to improve in certain aspects, you will need to train anaerobically every now and then.

 

The idea behind specific zones is also somewhat limited. There has been research conducted where it shows that interval training is much more efficient at burning fat off the bones than long distance aerobic workouts. At the end of the day, everyone is an individual and should be treated as such. What works for one person wont necessarily work for another.

 

The statement of whether aerobic is better than anaerobic  is like asking whether using a broom to sweep the floor is better than vacuuming. They are very different and have various aspects to it.

 

[boeing]

 

I usually try keep my HR in the aerobic zone while spinning. This involves slacking off a bit while the rest of the class carries on having heart attacks. Its training for longer distances that I want....I asked the one instructor at VA why they dont do HR classes - he says most people dont understand HR and think more sweat = more fitness.....

 

 

 

 

that instructor is an idiot then because if he knows that then he is obviously thinking the same way instead of doing his job properly and helping people to understand what heart rate is and actually how important that little thing in your chest is...

 

 

 

all fun and games till someone overcooks it in a spinning class and drops dead due to the instructor going to the pain side of things

 

My experience with indoor cycling instructors tells me that they are idiots.

 

[turtlek]

 

I usually try keep my HR in the aerobic zone while spinning. This involves slacking off a bit while the rest of the class carries on having heart attacks. Its training for longer distances that I want....I asked the one instructor at VA why they dont do HR classes - he says most people dont understand HR and think more sweat = more fitness.....

 

 

 

 

that instructor is an idiot then because if he knows that then he is obviously thinking the same way instead of doing his job properly and helping people to understand what heart rate is and actually how important that little thing in your chest is...

 

 

 

all fun and games till someone overcooks it in a spinning class and drops dead due to the instructor going to the pain side of things

My experience with indoor cycling instructors tells me that they are idiots.

 

 

 

indeed most of them are really cant understand how they can try tell people that it is all about the painwhile they might be killing that person

[boeing]

Quite literally killing that person. I will be the first to tell you that Gyms are bad ideas. The whole principle behind them is about money. They aren't interested in your health or well-being whatsoever. A biokineticist or a Sports Doctor is the right answer 

[SwissVan]

Been doing quite a few spinning classes of late - the instructors dont work on HR' date=' they work on pain... so which is better - Aerobic or Anaerobic? Any reasons?

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As per earlier posts and in an ideal world a proper combination of both depending on the type of event you training for.

 

If your goals are just general fitness and not competitive then go for aerobic.

 

That being said... imo in a competition with all things being equal the person who trains anaerobic (if he survives the training ) will out perform the person who trains aerobic.

 

 

[IdeJongh]

Combo of both -

Use aerobic for base training and weightloss and then use anaerobic in the form of chunks or interval training for variation in your program, as well as increasing your cycling strength.

[Zang]

I prefer to train aerobic a few months before the beginning of the season and anaerobic as I reach peak or 2 months before a race I am specifically aiming for in 4 week blocks for different types of anaerobic training.

 

I do think though at the end of the day, it all depends what your goals are and how fit you are.

 

Those Spin classes are fun to do occasionally, and don't see the harm in them for people who do train already... And makes for good alternative when it's raining and don't wanna get on rollers.

 

[Frenchy]

Spin twice a week with a instructor that is a cyclist himself and also does Ironman etc. Presents his class with the cyclists in mind and uses HR. One can really see that he is serious about his name as a instructor and has a great attitude....and that is in one of the two well known Gym groups, not a private business.