Retro Bicycle Thread

[Fire Engine]

Colnago still make steel Master frames off the same 30 odd year old setup. Here's my baby.

 

MMmmmmmmm very nice . What's your address again.

[Guest notmyname]

Colnago still make steel Master frames off the same 30 odd year old setup. Here's my baby.

 

That is one sexy lady S. Wow!

[Bradley Page-Lee]

Hello. I did get a few comments about this Trek from the other guys on the forum but some recommended I post here. What is the opinion about this bike from you guys. Ive just started buy to sell because while looking for old school bmxs I bumped into some road bikes. They looked to nice to be stuck in a old shop or in a guys garage... BUT they are not always worth the price paid. SO I'M LEARNING. Please give your opinions and any info you have. I will post a few here, from the quality and name brand I see on this thread these bikes might be out there depth here... I realise there is more quality and collector value out there but I have not found it yet. Looking at this thread I can see theres some really classy stuff and real hard work put into these fine machines.

 

So please be patient whilst I learn the game and dont be insulted by the bikes I put on, obviously I will use my intelligence. But it would be great to know if the few bikes I bought get me into the game even on micro junior entry level... BUT I RESERVE THE RIGHT TO FIND THE BOMB ....

I would like to show the Trek 470 Fast Track, Torelli and Cosmos and get info on those and any 'collectability' status... if any. There is a second hand carbon fiber Schwinn frame to and is that worth getting involved in.

 

I have a seventies Wstern Flyer I would to show just for info or comments, an American forum reckons its seventies but there has been a contradiction to that that we might clarify here. this bike is tarnished but is fully there and is gorgeous. Then there is the frame and forks of a 1956 Rudge and some eastern european ladies bike fram and parts called a Kopra. If any interested in looking at those let me Know. THEY NEED PLENTY WORK, but they safe for now.

Thanks

Brad.[

[Bradley Page-Lee]

Here is the Torelli I mentioned earlier, very scuffed. Dodgy colours and ugly decals. Was this a respray do you think. Is there any idea on age here and potential value. I have offered it to one of the guys on the forum and will respect his offer but just out of interest sake. Lots of people wanted the rims but I'm not into stripping for parts yet... workshop has limited space. But is parting out worth it and does this bike have any wanted parts...

[Bradley Page-Lee]

Last one for now. Any info would help. I thought it was Spanish from comments then from images I saw on the internet, then someone thought South African but then I see handle bars got made in Italy pressed into them... NOW.. is that only the handle bars are made in Italy, which I doubt. Are they genuine handle bars that come with the bike; thus the bike is Italian. And is there any pedigree or potential value to this bike, am I in lala land with these bikes im posting. A person on another channel who very interested but has not seen images wanted to know if there are sti gears on the bike? Ive got lots to learn but whats sti gears and is it easy to explain and are they on this bike.

Thank You

[Loose cog]

That little red Trek has nice angles and will make a nice restoration project. Interested to see pictures of the Rudge. Welcome to the club Brad.

[eddy]

Some marginally better ones grabbed on the way to the airport early this morning. ..

[Pieterg]

Nice Frame

[javadude]

Last one for now. Any info would help. I thought it was Spanish from comments then from images I saw on the internet, then someone thought South African but then I see handle bars got made in Italy pressed into them... NOW.. is that only the handle bars are made in Italy, which I doubt. Are they genuine handle bars that come with the bike; thus the bike is Italian. And is there any pedigree or potential value to this bike, am I in lala land with these bikes im posting. A person on another channel who very interested but has not seen images wanted to know if there are sti gears on the bike? Ive got lots to learn but whats sti gears and is it easy to explain and are they on this bike.

Thank You

 

This bike is a South African made frame with components sourced from all over the world. The handlebars are indeed Italian, and the groupset(crank, gears, brakes etc) is Japanase made Shimano. STI gears stand for Shimano Total Integration, and it means that each gear changes with a solid click on the lever. Older non STI gears were known as friction gears, where you would have to change gears by fine tuning the lever without a solid click.

 

This particular cosmos is entry level, with a bottom of the range frame tubing and a bottom of the range groupset. It is probably worth about R800.

[Chro Mo]

Javadude know his ****!

[javadude]

Here is the Torelli I mentioned earlier, very scuffed. Dodgy colours and ugly decals. Was this a respray do you think. Is there any idea on age here and potential value. I have offered it to one of the guys on the forum and will respect his offer but just out of interest sake. Lots of people wanted the rims but I'm not into stripping for parts yet... workshop has limited space. But is parting out worth it and does this bike have any wanted parts...

 

Torrelli is an American company that sourced cheap no name brand frames from Italy and imported them to America, branding them with a cool Italian sounding name. Like the Cosmos, this bike is also entry level.

[Bradley Page-Lee]

JAVADUDE JUST KILLED ME...

 

Thanks for your help and brutal honesty... I still think the Trek is good looking..lol. Okay, so now do I try sell them to get my money back. Is it rude to sell them now for more money than you say they worth. I would hate to sell to someone just for them to feel later they were exploited, I'm not here for that. Yet I do have to try regain some capital. I tried to base my sales price on not only what I paid for the bike but for the time it took travelling, hunting, cleaning etc etc. No magic formula but a hypothetical based on expenses and what I would think as logic. Obviously the bikes were expensive, in a sense. My first attempt at the road bike thingy... old school bmx I score on big time. basically I thought of this as a logical extension of sourcing old school bmxs. It can be, I just need to communicate with you guys before I buy.

 

So?, how do I approach this? is it rude and out of line to try get 2 grand for each bike. Considering what you said and applying some level of respect to that and then apllying some level of trying to regain expenses on the whole operation. I have had interest from other channels at this kind of price but I would hate for that person to read your thread and feel embarressed or conned. My heart says I wont be conning any one if I ask for 2 grand each as i think its fair all things considered.

 

Yet if you say the dude will be chased out of town then I will have to respect that and see what i can do to change the price. But I would appreciate your opinion on this.

 

Thanks,

Brad

[Bradley Page-Lee]

JAVADUDE JUST KILLED ME...

 

Thanks for your help and brutal honesty... I still think the Trek is good looking..lol. Okay, so now do I try sell them to get my money back. Is it rude to sell them now for more money than you say they worth. I would hate to sell to someone just for them to feel later they were exploited, I'm not here for that. Yet I do have to try regain some capital. I tried to base my sales price on not only what I paid for the bike but for the time it took travelling, hunting, cleaning etc etc. No magic formula but a hypothetical based on expenses and what I would think as logic. Obviously the bikes were expensive, in a sense. My first attempt at the road bike thingy... old school bmx I score on big time. basically I thought of this as a logical extension of sourcing old school bmxs. It can be, I just need to communicate with you guys before I buy.

 

So?, how do I approach this? is it rude and out of line to try get 2 grand for each bike. Considering what you said and applying some level of respect to that and then apllying some level of trying to regain expenses on the whole operation. I have had interest from other channels at this kind of price but I would hate for that person to read your thread and feel embarressed or conned. My heart says I wont be conning any one if I ask for 2 grand each as i think its fair all things considered.

 

Yet if you say the dude will be chased out of town then I will have to respect that and see what i can do to change the price. But I would appreciate your opinion on this.

 

Thanks,

Brad

[javadude]

JAVADUDE JUST KILLED ME...

 

Thanks for your help and brutal honesty... I still think the Trek is good looking..lol. Okay, so now do I try sell them to get my money back. Is it rude to sell them now for more money than you say they worth. I would hate to sell to someone just for them to feel later they were exploited, I'm not here for that. Yet I do have to try regain some capital. I tried to base my sales price on not only what I paid for the bike but for the time it took travelling, hunting, cleaning etc etc. No magic formula but a hypothetical based on expenses and what I would think as logic. Obviously the bikes were expensive, in a sense. My first attempt at the road bike thingy... old school bmx I score on big time. basically I thought of this as a logical extension of sourcing old school bmxs. It can be, I just need to communicate with you guys before I buy.

 

So?, how do I approach this? is it rude and out of line to try get 2 grand for each bike. Considering what you said and applying some level of respect to that and then apllying some level of trying to regain expenses on the whole operation. I have had interest from other channels at this kind of price but I would hate for that person to read your thread and feel embarressed or conned. My heart says I wont be conning any one if I ask for 2 grand each as i think its fair all things considered.

 

Yet if you say the dude will be chased out of town then I will have to respect that and see what i can do to change the price. But I would appreciate your opinion on this.

 

Thanks,

Brad

 

 

At the end of the day a bike is worth whatever someone is willing to pay, so feel free to sell the bike for whatever price you want.

[gtr1]

The Claude Butler in question also has odd sized crank bolts that are proving a challenge to remove!

 

Good thing I found some retro Campagnolo tools to assist :-)

[Broker]

I found this Bianchi and want to start a renovation project. Give me some advice on what price can I offer for it. Thanks