can u believe this

[Overlord]

 

I just spoke to Mr K Hauer and we had a very civilized chat. I can understand why they are starting to get a little fed-up with cyclists.

 

Maybe just a attitude change from cyclists will make motorists regard them with the same respect they do other road users. Remember you get what you give. 

 

Like I said long before this thread started to degrade in a typical mudslinging thread.

 

[levett]

Maybe just a attitude change from cyclists will make motorists regard them with the same respect they do other road users

I hope they don't  regard them with the same DISrespect they do other road users

I'm aiming for more respect for ALL road users! The way all road users are treated is shameful!

[goofs]

Everyone should back off and let the proper authorities like CGC deal with this. Noble as it may seem any agreement reached here will have no bearing on every cyclist that rides in the area,  it's public road and you have no authority to dicatate to other cyclist. CGC through their club member education and Metro police are best suited.

[Guest Big H]

It seems as if Giovanni and CGC has had their chance and has botched it upp. That is why Cradle Resident is so pissed off. It is now up to the two Superheroes to save the day.

[Slowbee]

Looking at this from the outside, its just a sad reflection on humanity.

I hope that an amicable solution can be reached so that ALL roadusers win.

 

 

[kosmonooit]

Thank goddess I ride a mountain bike?

[Cassie]

Thank goddess I ride a mountain bike 

 

Yeah!!! And we greet each other all the time....

[dollar]

Sad little thread.

 

I was just thinking how easy it is to launch a "lynch mob". Without too much direct provocation and snippets of second or third hand information the true mob is born. Ready to (they say) do just about anything. Scary stuff.

 

It also reminds me of this new "shoot to kill" approach from the cops. Everybody thinks this is great - the baddies get what they deserve, until things get out of hand - as they always seem to in SA and innocent people start getting wacked "by mistake"

 

Stop and think about it!

 

[HeartCoppi]

Sad little thread.I was just thinking how easy it is to launch a "lynch mob". Without too much direct provocation and snippets of second or third hand information the true mob is born. Ready to (they say) do just about anything. Scary stuff.It also reminds me of this new "shoot to kill" approach from the cops. Everybody thinks this is great - the baddies get what they deserve' date=' until things get out of hand - as they always seem to in SA and innocent people start getting wacked "by mistake"Stop and think about it!

 

[/quote']

 

 

 

I still want to know why the two original cyclists that he 'ran' down; haven't taken him down or even behind bars.

 

They have more power than any of us in this affair.

 

Are they (the two victims/cyclists)being apathetic???

 

This week a taxi driver got 12yrs for running down a girl on a scooter.

 

Their apathy has allowed this to spiral. I am as upset with them as much as I sympathize. tarboy2009-09-19 00:21:05

[dollar]

That's kinda my point Tarboy. The "victims" are in fact a rumour at this time. They are not real until they raise there hands and give their story.

 

So it's no different from the "rumor" started about a Pakistani shopkeeper that results in a mob burning his shop down?

 

[thenoodle]

I think to close this discussion/arguement we can all take the following valuable information home:

 

1. Convert from Marie biscuits to Oreo's (Road to MTB). It is a lot safer and much more fun

2. Don't crap on someone else's property

3. Don't ride with 3 or 4 breasts

4. Keep left, get "run over" right

5. Join the Scorpion legal aid now! (Don't talk to me, talk to my lawyer)

6. Rambo is ALIVE!!!!!

7. Don't lie (Gasping)

8. Barbie is friendlier than Ken

9. Don't Forget to "MOOOOO" when prodded

10. Peace  - Go Chucky!!!!!!!

 

Over and Out!

 

[Guest Big H]

That's kinda my point Tarboy. The "victims" are in fact a rumour at this time. They are not real until they raise there hands and give their story.

So it's no different from the "rumor" started about a Pakistani shopkeeper that results in a mob burning his shop down?

 

You call that inciting email on page 1 a "rumour".....?????? Ken admits to it and later on his buddy as well on his behalf!!!!!!

Big H2009-09-19 03:25:44

[Robert Lofthouse]

Yeah, good point Big H ... an off-handed comment about already having run down 2 cyclists is most definitely cold hard fact.

</sarcasm>

 

So, who are these 2 that were so brutally run down, does anyone know them ... does anyone OF them ... hell, come to think of it, does anyone know if the claim is indeed true. I reckon the answer is NO to all 3 questions.

 

So, until there is actually any truth to the claim (it seems he was just blowing off steam for one reason or other), it's probably best to not go and assume that everything you read on the internet is true, and not go and stir up all sorts of trouble based on hearsay.

 

Buuut, then again, I guess it's already too late to request such levelheadedness, now is it!? If I take the way the lot of you (a few exceptions, of course) have behaved in this thread, is it so surprising that the residents of the Cradle area are so upset about the way cyclists behave on the roads?

 

I don't think so, reading this thread makes it quite easy to understand the standpoint of those people. Hell, it makes it easy to understand the animosity of the public towards cyclists in general.

 

[Tumbleweed]

Yeah' date=' good point Big H ... an off-handed comment about already having run down 2 cyclists is most definitely cold hard fact. </sarcasm>So, who are these 2 that were so brutally run down, does anyone know them ... does anyone OF them ... hell, come to think of it, does anyone know if the claim is indeed true. I reckon the answer is NO to all 3 questions. So, until there is actually any truth to the claim (it seems he was just blowing off steam for one reason or other), it's probably best to not go and assume that everything you read on the internet is true, and not go and stir up all sorts of trouble based on hearsay. Buuut, then again, I guess it's already too late to request such levelheadedness, now is it!? If I take the way the lot of you (a few exceptions, of course) have behaved in this thread, is it so surprising that the residents of the Cradle area are so upset about the way cyclists behave on the roads?I don't think so, reading this thread makes it quite easy to understand the standpoint of those people. Hell, it makes it easy to understand the animosity of the public towards cyclists in general.[/quote']

 

 

 

great post. but it's more about the animosity of people towards people. we organise in groups only when we're angry enough to try and find some outlet for our hatred. this is what nazism was about. this is why the current jihad is so successful. this is what xenophobia is about. this is pathetic. i am a cyclist. i am not part of some cycling community. i have friends who cycle. i want no part of this.   holy roller2009-09-19 21:01:15

[dollar]

Big H - Yes most certainly it's a rumor. I could have faked that exact mail in 2 minutes - with your name as the sender. Email is rubbish - its plain text.

 

Ok - so then the oke says he did it. But what if he is talking BS. Too late - the mob is on the way. 

[Slipstream Sean]

Ok, I only read this whole thread now...well not all of it, in fact I skipped a lot so hope I'm not repeating anything. But to me it seems like we're giving this guy waaaay too much attention...clearly thats what he wants...I mean who goes onto a cycling forum and belittles cyclists, sounds like a sad old man to me...probly child issues...maybe an orphan or sumthin...who knows.