Danger Dassie Posted January 14, 2011 Posted January 14, 2011 XC / Marathon riders also need control.I've seen plenty of crazy downhill sections on XC courses in SA The average joe does not ride crazy stuff but will still benefit from using a slightly wider riser bar on the terrain that he normaly rides and is technicaly difficult for him / her. Bar ends provide comfort, variety and support which is usefull on long climbs or distances, and there is no valid reason on earth why they cannot be put on riser bars, unless you are affected by what the fashion police say. XC flatbars are a weightweenie (no not the one on the hub) invention to help save weight and achieve better aerodynamics for racing purposes. Have to agree here, a lot of bikes are being specced with a slight riser on marathon/xc bike. I prefer it too, especially on long days of riding. Especially areas like vG or similar.Handlebars like pedals, saddles, grips and gloves etc... are a personal choice though. Some folk will still prefer a flat bar, or wider, or with more of a rise. Thats the great thing about cycling, few hard and fast rules when it comes to setup.
Just Keep Pedaling Posted January 14, 2011 Posted January 14, 2011 (edited) The higher the bars the more comfort - the lower the bars the more power (see time trial bikes). I prefer comfort so I use risers for marathons no problems at all. Edited January 14, 2011 by Just Keep Pedaling
SwissVan Posted January 14, 2011 Posted January 14, 2011 The higher the bars the more comfort - the lower the bars the better the aerodynamics and thus more effecient use of our puny power (see time trial bikes). I prefer comfort so I use risers for marathons no problems at all. Altered sorry
AndreZA Posted January 14, 2011 Posted January 14, 2011 The higher the bars the more comfort - the lower the bars the more power (see time trial bikes). I prefer comfort so I use risers for marathons no problems at all. Why can't you fit a correct stem or leave a longer tube on the fork to get the proper fit?
SwissVan Posted January 14, 2011 Posted January 14, 2011 Riser bars vs flat bars are a like dual suspension vs hard tail. It's been proven that a good quality dual suspension equipped bike out performs an equivelant hardtail YET look how many people still race on hardtails.
SwissVan Posted January 14, 2011 Posted January 14, 2011 Why can't you fit a correct stem or leave a longer tube on the fork to get the proper fit? Weight weenie principals dont allow this.
AndreZA Posted January 14, 2011 Posted January 14, 2011 Weight weenie principals dont allow this. So what will it be, longer steerer or riser bars. I actually think longer steerer will be lighter.
SwissVan Posted January 14, 2011 Posted January 14, 2011 Well firstly longer steerer only applies if you starting from new, if it's already been cut then its not an option. Whichever weight you look at it its going to be a few grams difference, but it is easier to replace a flat bar with a riser than add cm's to your steerer.
kolobe Posted January 14, 2011 Author Posted January 14, 2011 Thx for the replies. It's been entertaining. ill do the swop and post some pics. Saving only 200 grams.
GTRacing Posted January 14, 2011 Posted January 14, 2011 For starters riser bars are for trail and downhill racing and are suppose to be wide. Fit flat bars for cross country. Secondly you don't fit bar ends to riser bars for the same reason as pointed out in point 1.Bwahahahahaaaa.... CHOP! come back from that village.... only poephole bly daar.
SwissVan Posted January 14, 2011 Posted January 14, 2011 Thx for the replies. It's been entertaining. ill do the swop and post some pics. Saving only 200 grams. Just remember..... Like someone mentioned earlier, before cutting your riser bar make sure all your stuff fits.For example check the gear cable adjustment thingys near your gear levers dont interfere with the bar if you need to use them, sometimes they can be jammed by the "riser" part of the bar.
ichnusa Posted January 14, 2011 Posted January 14, 2011 DON'T DO IT! Please i beg you... don't do it... at least not 4cm each side - its a lot
LazyTrailRider Posted January 14, 2011 Posted January 14, 2011 I was laughed at when I put a lightweight flat bar on my newly-built-up Intense 5.5, so I switched to an Easton MonkeyLite riser. If you put bar-ends on a riser, you'll get the same people laughing at you. It hurts, and it almost made me cry, so don't do it!
kolobe Posted January 14, 2011 Author Posted January 14, 2011 (edited) OK. I'm not going to cut after all the input. you guys really helped a lot. THX. I dont give a s$%#t about who laughs and who dont. It is my comfort in the end. Martin you should slap the one's trying to make you cry. Be the man put on those ugly bar end's. Edited January 14, 2011 by kolobe
ichnusa Posted January 15, 2011 Posted January 15, 2011 well done, me thinks its a wise choice. on the note of bar-ends... when selling a bike, it is my opinion that taking them off for the photo shoot is a grand idea. these 6 inch trail bikes with 2.3 inch tires... and oh-so-comfortable bar-ends just do not look the part.
covie Posted January 15, 2011 Posted January 15, 2011 Control. Have you ever seen Seasons or any of those movies where men ride real mountains and not the molehills we have in SA. Mampara if only world was black and white as you make it out to be, I ride risers with bar ends, and i do mostly trail but XC as well. And I have this setup for comfort reasons due to a back injury, The only drawback is you're angle when climbing.
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