Edgar Posted February 24, 2011 Posted February 24, 2011 I think splitting them up is great. Get to race on saturday and sunday rather then sitting around scratching my... and then driving home. Better value for money, you stay over for the whole weekend anyway so get the best out of it.
kosmonooit Posted February 24, 2011 Posted February 24, 2011 (edited) I am thinking sadly this is whats its all come down to: appeasing sponsors. Since there are different sponsors for Marathon and the 1/2 they have to have their own airtime / exposure. And if you look at Pedaltalk the focus is entirely on the leaders and teams and their sponsors names are always plugged. No coverage at all of rank & file. Just seems the events have become props for sponsors brands. They say without a sponsor there wont be a race/event. Really? Lets look at the budget then. How much of our money goes to hiring helicopters for TV coverage? We all pay good money to enter, not too mention expenses of getting there and accommodation. It seems to me the focus of events have become too centered around commercial promotions, and now runs the risk of the grow and popularity of the sport going pop. The marketing storm troopers are taking over. And SABC. Now is this not a public broadcaster that we pay license fees for? (at least I do) So why should a cycling programme entirely focus on the brands and sponsors of any events. What about the rest of the participants? That being said, its great to have such a choice of events now out in the country. I really enjoy getting the opportunity to get out there and enjoy the routes / rides / nature / camaraderie. So keep it up MTN Nissan etc but lets try get more of a balance, and think / consider the views and needs of the average person attending and making them the success they are. Edited February 24, 2011 by kosmonooit
AndreZA Posted February 24, 2011 Posted February 24, 2011 They say without a sponsor there wont be a race/event. Really? Like the first unsponsored Avianto race was R90 and it included a burger. The next one was R170 or so after a sponsor signed up.
Nettie R Posted February 24, 2011 Posted February 24, 2011 I am thinking sadly this is whats its all come down to: appeasing sponsors... Just seems the events have become props for sponsors brands. They say without a sponsor there wont be a race/event. Really? Lets look at the budget then. How much of our money goes to hiring helicopters for TV coverage? We all pay good money to enter, not too mention expenses of getting there and accommodation. It seems to me the focus of events have become too centered around commercial promotions, and now runs the risk of the grow and popularity of the sport going pop. The marketing storm troopers are taking over. Exactly.We were happy little bikers before the races were aired on tv, advertised to the already converted etc. It seems the bigger name of the sponsor, the more expensive it gets for average joe. If general expenses like land use charges, registration is paid by the organiser, what does the sponsor bring to the table that will benefit midfield riders like me?
allobar Posted February 25, 2011 Author Posted February 25, 2011 Geez, HTFU. Then go to just one of the out of town races. Everyone has their own budget but you need not splash yours all over the HUB. The point is, the MTN events are better organised than most, have a great vibe and are professional in the extreme. That is why you would rather do THEM. And with the new format there are definitely pro's and a few con's involved - but don't focus on the negative so much. You're ruining it for the rest of us. Seems like it does not take much to ruin something that is already in tatters then :-)Not my budget I am concerned about I am one - no attachments so cost etc is not a problem.But if you look/listen to the reasoning for splitting the events then they (the organizers) are working against themselves.Now instead of having more people at the event - people will have to choose one, talking about having 2 out of town events in one month.As for the race itself - You may force some 1/2 Marathon riders to enter the marathon, now clogging up the marathon and leaving the 1/2marathon less supported, or perhaps as they hope opening up space for more people in the 1/2marathon.Be that as it may - to each his own - we will see what effect fuel prices and tolls have on these races.I am just sick and tired of everything having a price tag. "If you are in advertising, go out and kill yourself" - Bill Hicks
Noneking Posted February 25, 2011 Posted February 25, 2011 (edited) Had a chat with one of Sabie locals yesterday. She will marshall on Saturday, but refused to take part on Sunday. She says that "the people of Sabie" are very unhappy with the Sunday racing. Marshalls and sponsors of waterpoints are local, churchgoing people who are now being "forced" to spend the Sunday at the event as well. I was very unhappy with the way things turned out at Barberton on the Sunday, but will be in Sabie on Sunday to see if they have made an attempt to improve the vibe etc. Edited February 25, 2011 by Cannas
ZOINCS Posted February 25, 2011 Posted February 25, 2011 Did both Barbeton and Sabie last year this year not, voted with my feet, missed the fun but could not afford it.
mtbee Posted March 2, 2011 Posted March 2, 2011 Sabie 1/2 on Sunday was a great route and fantastic atmosphere at the event. We even got a respectable goodie bag. The split racing allowed me the opportunity to watch the pro's racing on Saturday.I do however prefer the 1 day format and would like not to have to take a secong bond to finance the weekends activities.
Tim_Fair Posted March 3, 2011 Posted March 3, 2011 Check out the next race in the MTN National MTB Series driven by NISSAN.MTN National XCM #5 TULBAGH
Tim_Fair Posted March 3, 2011 Posted March 3, 2011 (edited) MTN NATIONAL XCM MTB SERIES & NISSAN NATIONAL 1/2 MARATHON MTB SERIES Sat 15 January 2011 MTN & NISSAN Attakwas XCM #1 Chandelier Game Farm, Oudtshoorn, Western Cape Sat 29 January 2011 MTN Barberton XCM # 2 Barberton High School, Barberton, Mpumalanga Sun 30 January 2011 NISSAN Barberton 1/2 Marathon #2 Barberton High School, Barberton, Mpumalanga Sat 19 February 2011 MTN Clarens XCM # 3 Town Square, Clarens, Free State Sun 20 February 2011 NISSAN Clarens 1/2 Marathon #3 Town Square, Clarens, Free State Sat 26 February 2011 MTN Sabie XCM # 4 York Timbers, Sabie, Mpumalanga Sun 27 February 2011 NISSAN Sabie 1/2 Marathon #4 York Timbers, Sabie, Mpumalanga Sat 14 May 2011 MTN Tulbagh XCM # 5 Saronsberg Wine Estate, Tulbagh, Western Cape Sun 15 May 2011 NISSAN Tulbagh 1/2 Marathon #5 Saronsberg Wine Estate, Tulbagh, Western Cape Sat 27 August 2011 MTN Graveltravel XCM # 6 Diemersfontein Wine estate, Diemersfontein, Western Cape Sun 28 August 2011 NISSAN Graveltravel 1/2 Marathon #6 Diemersfontein Wine estate, Diemersfontein, Western Cape Sat 24 September 2011 MTN 50 Miler XCM # 7 Grace College, Hilton, Kwa-Zulu Natal Sun 25 September 2011 NISSAN 50 Miler #7 Grace College, Hilton, Kwa-Zulu Natal Sat 08 October 2011 MTN Crater Cruise # 8 Petite Paris, Parys, Free State Sun 09 October 2011 NISSAN Crater Cruise #8 Petite Paris, Parys, Free State NISSAN 2011 SERIES Sat 25 June 2011 NISSAN #1 - Hazeldean Hazeldean, Pta East, Gauteng Sat 23 July 2011 NISSAN #2 - Teaks Place Teaks Place, Roodepoort, Gauteng Sat 03 September 2011 NISSAN #3 - Down & Dirty Smuts Museum, Irene, Gauteng Sat 22 October 2011 NISSAN #4 - Oak Ave Oak Ave, Cullinan, Gauteng Sat 05 November 2011 NISSAN #5 - Van Gaalen Van Gaalen, Skeerpoort, North West OTHER EVENTS 30 July 2011 Schoemanskloof MTB Challenge TBA 18 September 2011 MTN Zoo Lake Criterium Zoo Lake Park, Johannesburg, Gauteng 01 October 2011 Misty Valley MTB Challenge Misty Valley Lodge, Mpumalanga TRAINING CAMPS 15-17 April 2011 Misty Valley Training Camp Misty Valley Lodge, Mpumalanga 06-08 May 2011 Misty Valley Training Camp Misty Valley Lodge, Mpumalanga 03-05 June 2011 Misty Valley Training Camp Misty Valley Lodge, Mpumalanga Edited March 3, 2011 by Tim_Fair
Tim_Fair Posted March 8, 2011 Posted March 8, 2011 NISSAN TRAILSEEKER SERIES: 2011 NISSAN MTB Series teaser.
Tim_Fair Posted March 10, 2011 Posted March 10, 2011 MTN National XCM #3 Clarens - Braodcast Schedule Miway Mountain Biking Eps. 4 MTN National Marathon Series - Clarens, Fs (3) 14-Mar-11 20:30 21:00 SS7N PremierMiway Mountain Biking Eps. 4 MTN National Marathon Series - Clarens, Fs (3) 14-Mar-11 20:30 21:00 SS7 RepeatMiway Mountain Biking Eps. 4 MTN National Marathon Series - Clarens, Fs (3) 15-Mar-11 10:30 11:00 SS6 RepeatMiway Mountain Biking Eps. 4 MTN National Marathon Series - Clarens, Fs (3) 15-Mar-11 10:30 11:00 SS6A RepeatMiway Mountain Biking Eps. 4 MTN National Marathon Series - Clarens, Fs (3) 16-Mar-11 16:00 16:30 SS7 RepeatMiway Mountain Biking Eps. 4 MTN National Marathon Series - Clarens, Fs (3) 16-Mar-11 16:00 16:30 SS7N RepeatMiway Mountain Biking Eps. 4 MTN National Marathon Series - Clarens, Fs (3) 17-Mar-11 18:30 19:00 SS7 RepeatMiway Mountain Biking Eps. 4 MTN National Marathon Series - Clarens, Fs (3) 17-Mar-11 18:30 19:00 SS7N RepeatMiway Mountain Biking Eps. 4 MTN National Marathon Series - Clarens, Fs (3) 19-Mar-11 00:00 00:30 SS6 RepeatMiway Mountain Biking Eps. 4 MTN National Marathon Series - Clarens, Fs (3) 19-Mar-11 00:00 00:30 SS6A RepeatMiway Mountain Biking Eps. 4 MTN National Marathon Series - Clarens, Fs (3) 19-Mar-11 08:30 09:00 SS6A RepeatMiway Mountain Biking Eps. 4 MTN National Marathon Series - Clarens, Fs (3) 19-Mar-11 08:30 09:00 SS6 RepeatMiway Mountain Biking Eps. 4 MTN National Marathon Series - Clarens, Fs (3) 20-Mar-11 08:00 08:30 SS5 RepeatMiway Mountain Biking Eps. 4 MTN National Marathon Series - Clarens, Fs (3) 20-Mar-11 08:00 08:30 SS5N RepeatMiway Mountain Biking Eps. 4 MTN National Marathon Series - Clarens, Fs (3) 20-Mar-11 08:00 08:30 SS5A RepeatMiway Mountain Biking Eps. 4 MTN National Marathon Series - Clarens, Fs (3) 21-Mar-11 10:00 10:30 SS6A RepeatMiway Mountain Biking Eps. 4 MTN National Marathon Series - Clarens, Fs (3) 21-Mar-11 10:00 10:30 SS6 Repeat
Tim_Fair Posted March 10, 2011 Posted March 10, 2011 NISSAN National 1/2 Marathon #3 Clarens - Broadcast Schedule Miway Mountain Biking Eps. 5 Nissan National Half Marathon Series - Clarens, Fs (4) 14-Mar-11 21:00 21:30 SS7 PremierMiway Mountain Biking Eps. 5 Nissan National Half Marathon Series - Clarens, Fs (4) 14-Mar-11 21:00 21:30 SS7N PremierMiway Mountain Biking Eps. 5 Nissan National Half Marathon Series - Clarens, Fs (4) 15-Mar-11 11:00 11:30 SS6 RepeatMiway Mountain Biking Eps. 5 Nissan National Half Marathon Series - Clarens, Fs (4) 15-Mar-11 11:00 11:30 SS6A RepeatMiway Mountain Biking Eps. 5 Nissan National Half Marathon Series - Clarens, Fs (4) 16-Mar-11 16:30 17:00 SS7 RepeatMiway Mountain Biking Eps. 5 Nissan National Half Marathon Series - Clarens, Fs (4) 16-Mar-11 16:30 17:00 SS7N RepeatMiway Mountain Biking Eps. 5 Nissan National Half Marathon Series - Clarens, Fs (4) 17-Mar-11 19:00 19:30 SS7 RepeatMiway Mountain Biking Eps. 5 Nissan National Half Marathon Series - Clarens, Fs (4) 17-Mar-11 19:00 19:30 SS7N RepeatMiway Mountain Biking Eps. 5 Nissan National Half Marathon Series - Clarens, Fs (4) 19-Mar-11 00:30 01:00 SS6A RepeatMiway Mountain Biking Eps. 5 Nissan National Half Marathon Series - Clarens, Fs (4) 19-Mar-11 00:30 01:00 SS6 RepeatMiway Mountain Biking Eps. 5 Nissan National Half Marathon Series - Clarens, Fs (4) 19-Mar-11 09:00 09:30 SS6 RepeatMiway Mountain Biking Eps. 5 Nissan National Half Marathon Series - Clarens, Fs (4) 19-Mar-11 09:00 09:30 SS6A RepeatMiway Mountain Biking Eps. 5 Nissan National Half Marathon Series - Clarens, Fs (4) 20-Mar-11 08:30 09:00 SS5 RepeatMiway Mountain Biking Eps. 5 Nissan National Half Marathon Series - Clarens, Fs (4) 20-Mar-11 08:30 09:00 SS5N RepeatMiway Mountain Biking Eps. 5 Nissan National Half Marathon Series - Clarens, Fs (4) 20-Mar-11 08:30 09:00 SS5A RepeatMiway Mountain Biking Eps. 5 Nissan National Half Marathon Series - Clarens, Fs (4) 21-Mar-11 10:30 11:00 SS6 RepeatMiway Mountain Biking Eps. 5 Nissan National Half Marathon Series - Clarens, Fs (4) 21-Mar-11 10:30 11:00 SS6A Repeat
Tim_Fair Posted March 10, 2011 Posted March 10, 2011 Nissan Sports Adventure - Be part of the adventure by challenging yourself to the NISSAN TRAILSEEKER MTB Series. Starts 25th June.
nickc Posted March 10, 2011 Posted March 10, 2011 NISSAN TRAILSEEKER SERIES: 2011 NISSAN MTB Series teaser. Makes me want to leave work get on my bike and get some training in.
Tim_Fair Posted May 6, 2011 Posted May 6, 2011 Online entries for MTN National XCM #5 Tulbagh are closing at midnight on Sunday. Enter now at Advendurance. Online entries for NISSAN TrailSeeker #1 Hazeldean are also open and "Early Bird" entries close on the 31st May. Enter now at Advendurance.
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