Red Light Runners

[scotty]

Here's a solution to stop these red light jumpers

 

[buckstopper]

Sheet. And I see there are already lots of daisies being pushed up there!!

[scotty]

 Yup i believe a certain cycle club lost a lot of members that day

[Kiwi]

 

I hear what you are saying' date=' sitting at a red at 5.30am Sunday morning when no one is around is pretty annal..

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So is an enema, but every now and again you need to do it.

 

 

 

[Reg Lizard]

went cycling at 3h50 this morning and jumped about 10 red robots. I think it is totally insane to stand at a robbot at that time of the day freezing yourself to death. By the way I counted about 4 cars during my entire trip of 30km.

My phylosophy is that if it is safe to do so, I will junp the red robbot. No use standing around waiting to be bike-jacked or mugged.

[City Cycling Athletic Club]

the clyclelab and mtn clubs in cape town also run red lights - maybe its club policy

 

But then again' date=' I saw a large group of (I think) City Cycling Club riders (they had "CITY" printed down the side of their shorts) on the weekend passing through Stellenbosch, and they all stopped at a traffic light near the Station, even though there was no crossing traffic.

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ja Homer , we had just returned from the Pumphouse above Gordons Bay. our policy is to stop at red traffic lights just as any other roade user would. luckily enough were are not a massive club and our groups are only ?20 to 30 strong and we have enough "outoppies" to keep control. btw we got soaking wet on the way home. 

[Andrew mclean]

Guys, I have seen a number of posts of late re this issue and quotes of what I did or did not say.<?:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" />

Jumping red Robots is illegal and wrong!

Yes on our early morning training ride, a route we have used for almost 20 years with 30 odd Robots, we do break the law.

I am not saying it is right but it does happen.

 

We have a number of unwritten laws that for the most every body adheres to.

The front two riders slow up check for vehicles and call clear, this message then gets relayed back through the bunch.

Not ideal I know but reality.

 

Winter is really safe, since the cars headlights make it easy. [As long as the driver remembers to put them on]

 

The biggest problem, especially this time of the year is the bunches are to big.

[You try tell a guy he should not be riding with the A bunch]

So the front cyclists get to the robot, look call clear, however once the back guys get there a vehicle is bearing down on them, then of course these back cyclist hanging on for dear life, often, do not want to stop because then they will never catch the bunch again.

 

Anyway for Big bunches on a Dangerous route our track record as a training group is really good [Touch wood]

This is not to say for one minute that jumping a red light is the correct thing to do!

 

On rides after about 6.30 or 7am then we do stop at red robots.

[Delgado]

...so it's okay to break the law!!...but only after hours???

[Reg Lizard]

Soos ons nou in Afrikaans sal se "so reg uit die perd se bek uit"

[AndreZA]

...so it's okay to break the law!!...but only after hours???

 

and no one gets hurt.

 

 

[ewep]

 

...so it's okay to break the law!!...but only after hours???

 

Yes, the sister only beats me in call-more time!!

 

[HomerSimpson]

the clyclelab and mtn clubs in cape town also run red lights - maybe its club policy

 

But then again' date=' I saw a large group of (I think) City Cycling Club riders (they had "CITY" printed down the side of their shorts) on the weekend passing through Stellenbosch, and they all stopped at a traffic light near the Station, even though there was no crossing traffic.

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ja Homer , we had just returned from the Pumphouse above Gordons Bay. our policy is to stop at red traffic lights just as any other roade user would. luckily enough were are not a massive club and our groups are only ?20 to 30 strong and we have enough "outoppies" to keep control. btw we got soaking wet on the way home. 

 

Yes, I saw the rain starting up just as I passed  you on my way into town...the clouds looked kinda unfriendly, figured you might be in for a wet  ride!

[ewep]

I agree with Andrew.  I also do the same before 6 in the mornings.  Waar en HOE anders gaan jy jou training inkry (i.e. 5 x 10 min intervals @ whatever)?

[Gumpole]

Aaah, Andrew, good to hear the voice of reason.

 

The big problem isn't that jumping reds (under the right circumstances) is dangerous - it definitely isn't.

 

The problem is the growing problem of roadrage, aggresion on the roads and how this effects cyclists.

 

Jumping red robots annoys some drivers who are stuck behind the robot. These are the same drivers that are annoyed by taxis overtaking on the pavement. They are also annoyed by cyclists riding in huge bunches, cyclists using hand gestures, cyclists swearing, throwing water bottles, cyclists littering etc etc.

 

Cyclists need to improve there attitude in general, especially the 'pack' mentality when 5+ guys are riding together.

[ewep]

I get the feeling that EVERYONE has a gripe with groups that skip the red lights and not your single riders on early morning training rides.

 

Secondly, and I'm probably gonna get it for stating this, is why are only cyclists in ***?  What about runners and pedestrians!?

 

[casspir]

Gumpole,

Straight to the point and essence of the problem!  Well done!

Regards,

c