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Exactly. It boils down to that a lady can then win the bunch and her lady cat, but a man can only win the bunch. And they start in the same group. Doesn't really make sense. They start together for various reasons, but the rules are always quite clear that there are different categories in one starting group.

Not WP, but Racetec races, therefore including e.g. Serengeti, etc.

Thank you. Two interesting things: one, they used only one race, Die Burger, for 100% of my seeding while before it was 34% + 34% + 32% from your best three races, and two, PPA races are Racetec, but Carnival uses Championship and I didn't know they mix.

Thank you for all the information, Gerald. Where can I see my road seeding?

The is only one GC cat in pro races. Young, green, polka are all sub jerseys for the different types of riders. In yesterday's SAs there were clearly two different GC cats to start with. Apparently the reason they ride together is that u23 doesn't get UCI points if they race seperately and without those points they won't be able to go ride u23 international.

They can't override the rules via a announcement the morning of the race. You can read the rules at http://www.cyclingsa.com/App_Resources/Uploads/FILE00003138.pdf and through the document they show quite clearly that there's different categories for u23 and elite. And then article 10 is quite clear: Article 10: Medals and National Championship Jersey 1. The winner of each age category will be eligible to win a National Championships jersey. 2. National Championships jersey will be available for a photo shoot and media presentation and a winner’s jersey will be made to the correct size and posted to the winner within 2 weeks after the event provided that details of the size and postal address are provided to the event organiser. 3. Riders in each age category will be eligible to win a gold, silver or bronze medal. It would be like us VA and VB riding together, but if VB wins then he wins both VA and VB. Doesn't make sense that one guy (VB) can win 2 jerseys while the other (VA) only one in the same race. But still, great ride by Louis! I think he should go overseas now. And like Lem said, CSA used to support the SA Champions to go ride overseas, but not anymore. What has CSA done for you lately?

What this thread proves it that stolen bikes are bought by regular cyclists all around us and even us hubbers. Therefore we create the demand and bikes will keep on being stolen to supply us. There should really be more emphasis on serial numbers and perhaps special dots somewhere that you can prove it's yours and the onus should be on both the buyer and seller to make sure it's legit. Remember, if you buy something that's stolen and it can be proved, it can be taken from you and at worst a case can be opened against you.

Ahh seems I'm slow on crack.

Hoffman died?

Thank you Gary. Much appreciated.

Gary - is that profile the old start from the casino or the new start right at the bottom?

Ok I was talking from a racing perspective. It's not a question of right or wrong, it's just part of racing. Saying it's wrong is the same as saying climbers shouldn't go up mountains that fast. In the other batches I guess it becomes a bit more of a team time trial, but dunno how you get guys to work together. For my interest, is your guys' only target time? And if yes, compared to who or what?

For whom? The guy in front or crossing the white line in the slip? Of course it's a valid and good tactic to ride gutter.

Work out a quote! How many people do you need to make the cost reasonable?

Fun and games gents! Hopefully the boss' songs in my head will spur me on.

They responded to my picking up number email on the morning of the race: Hi Not for road only MTB Regards / Groete Liesel Van Zyl Fusion Sports MD Edit: (1) Their information was therefore wrong on the cycleevents website where they state you can collect on Sunday. (2) Why can't the organisers liaise on the Hub, because then they can give clarity instead of 20 people asking the same question via phone or email?

How much do you reckon these stores pay to have number collection there?

How about we start our own non-profit transport company for special events? Is it difficult to rent a truck and driver and then he only has to ride return with whatever is in the back?

It's the same. I still fill up to R100 every time.

Still nothing. Maybe I must phone.

My link to cycleevents http://cycleevents.co.za/serengeti-classic-road-race-2014/ show pick-up on Sundaypossible, but only from 6? I'll write them an email quickly. Number Collection: Cycle lab Lynnwood Wednesday 29 January 2014, From 09:00-12:00 or Sportsmans Warehouse, Fourways Thursday 30 January 2014, From 09:00-16:00 or At the Venue Sunday 2 February 2014, From 06:00

I'm still sorting out my logistics, but I might be going today so I can pick up yours?

Why do you say that? It's at the organiser's discretion?

I hope so?! Can't get number at 6 when I'm starting just after 6!

I don't know where you get your information from, but it is definitely not like that in India and Saudi Arabia. And Just googling a bit will reveal more information and you can start with http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_India and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_Saudi_Arabia - have you perhaps read about the recent village council punishment for a girl in India? Gang rape by 12 men for walking with a man from another village? Be serious and stop posting that crap.