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Dear Mr Tumbleweed I can assure you that I have no interest in an intellectual debate with you, because although you have made it perfectly clear that you somehow think you are superior, what you have in fact proven to me, is the very opposite, which makes my personality type, (1% of the population)lose immediate interest in wasting any more time on such lesser activities. I also struggle to see where, before this post I picked a fight with you. I asked you a perfected clear question and you refused to answer and attacked my "so called " lack of consumer lawknowledge (as if you know it, being a liaison to a consumer columnist)? You talk about being "patently" clear about knowing what I know or don't know. Isn't that funny indeed. You should learn to put your big foot in your mouth, or maybe your big thumb on your keyboard first before pronouncing what you think I know or don't know. For your interest, I have downloaded the "new" draft of the consumer Act already a while ago and read it. I would not declare myself a specialist like you do, but I know business, and I know you don't, because no business, if they intend to stay in business, would publicly declare the way you did, that they do not welcome customers that stand up for their rights as consumers. This has got nothing to do with knowing consumer law, it is about the customer being right, and wanting to protect your brand, and not wanting to antagonize your market. I have also never questioned the right to ask for a POP, merely stated that the rights of the customer also be upheld and supported by you, which you clearly refused to do. Oh, and reading your posts in this thread again, it is very clear, you are not the right person as moderator, and you should really step down.

No, you just stubbornly refuses to acknowledge the rights of the consumer. I wonder if a bike shop or distributor would publicly state, as you do, that they don't want someone as customer because the customer demand his rights as consumer.

Please tell me in what business do are doing any selling, so I can make sure to never buy any product from you, just in case I don't read the "fine print" in the warrantee. You still have not answered a perfectly easy question ... You continue defending a distributer/manufacturer here without giving any merits to the concerns of the cunsumers who had to fork out a lot of money buying its products, only to see the design is crap and breaks everywhere !

Well, it is not really clear. Make it crystal by answering the question then.

Do you also think there is absolutely nothing wrong with denying that there is an obvious design fault and NOT doing a public free exchange offer?

This is a lame duck response ! Be a stand up company and state if there is a problem with the saddle or not ! What exactly is "Fizik protocol". What does, "we will process the claim", mean exactly ? Will I have to take my saddle to my LBS and wait for how long before I know if they will replace it or not?

Yep, mine is the XM .

Someone ? Take action. Why don't you write a letter to the agent on all of our behalf. We shall all support you and co-sign it. Lets make the Hub work for us for a change. Power to the consumer !

Mine too, also on X1. Kind of see a pattern here.

Hi Christoph If you are familiar with torrents, you might want to check out this link, http://torrents.thepiratebay.org/3814089/Cycling_movies__A_Sunday_In_Hel__Overcoming__Hell_On_Wheels.3814089.TPB.torrent It is a 3 movie combination, including "Overcoming"

Interesting article I just read: http://www.engineeringnews.co.za/article/from-vehicles-to-cables-microdot-technology-gains-asset-recovery-traction-2011-01-21 "The company has also donated 1 000 microdot bike kits to cycling retailer Cyclelab." This could help put an end to these tricks of the second hand dealers...

Are you a lawyer Morpeus? Whats wrong with his post? He is merely stating facts, not accusing the shop of deliberately buying stolen goods. If the shop is all above board, then he has nothing to hide, or fear.

I will not delete my post, since I have tried to give you a compliment. If you feel bad about your reaction to that , then feel free to delete yours. This is the last I will say about this subject, since I have no intention to hijack this thread.

Hi Chris I think only you and your wife and maybe "oupie and oumie" knows whats best for your son. After all, you are the closest to him and see him everyday and will notice quickly enough when he is physically or mentally struggling. You will also be able to notice the subtle objections from him, should they start to surface. Kids start to do sport at earlier ages these days, earlier even that previous generations thought was possible. Fact is, no one can truly say when is too young or what distance is too much. Circumstances, ability and genes differ too much. You must be the judge of that, with the right input maybe from professionals I agree. I just look at my 3 boys, aged between 4 and 10, who all cycle, but with different abilities and motivation. My oldest(10) can cycle 30 km's easily and have also done the Hermanus Whale Festival all on his own (together with your son I see), but he tend to tell me quickly when his legs get sore and he is tired, and then I let him lay off from cycling a bit or even a few weeks if needed, till the motivation comes back quick enough. My middle one is 8 but needs much more motivation from us to cycle and he is also not as strong and fit as the other 2. My youngest (4) on the other hand, is a different animal altogether. We cant keep him off the bike ! Whenever we see he tends to be cycling around the house or on the farm somewhere. He just stands on those pedals and seem to never tire ! I rode with him and his brothers a good 5km's the other day and when he got back, he went for another spin with his mother that went for a jog. I trust you will make the best decision and encourage you and young Carlo ! I shall be looking out for both of you at this year's Hermanus Whale Festival ! (I just hope he won't be beating me by then !)

Wow, BigH , is this the same person? You must have made some serious new years resolutions, because this is the best comment I have ever read from you, by FAR!

Funny, I just read a very good article on parenting: Why Chinese Mothers Are Superior http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704111504576059713528698754.html?KEYWORDS=china+parents A lot of people wonder how Chinese parents raise such stereotypically successful kids. They wonder what these parents do to produce so many math whizzes and music prodigies, what it's like inside the family, and whether they could do it too. Well, I can tell them, because I've done it. Here are some things my daughters, Sophia and Louisa, were never allowed to do: • attend a sleepover • have a playdate • be in a school play • complain about not being in a school play • watch TV or play computer games • choose their own extracurricular activities • get any grade less than an A • not be the No. 1 student in every subject except gym and drama • play any instrument other than the piano or violin • not play the piano or violin. I'm using the term "Chinese mother" loosely. I know some Korean, Indian, Jamaican, Irish and Ghanaian parents who qualify too. Conversely, I know some mothers of Chinese heritage, almost always born in the West, who are not Chinese mothers, by choice or otherwise. I'm also using the term "Western parents" loosely. Western parents come in all varieties. Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/chinese-parents-2011-1?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+clusterstock+%28ClusterStock%29#ixzz1AY5L4NuA

Yes, that's true, but then also most accidents happen because people misjudged those risks, or not perceived there to be any risk at all ... How many of those years were spent racing with a small boy alongside you ?

While not judging you, have you considered if an accident where to happen and your son got mangled in the process. One day later when your son is more rational and start to think for himself, he asks you why you let him ride shotgun with you. Will you answer, "son because I loved you" ? You think he will believe you or think you were just being selfish? Ps. I struggle with these issues every day having 3 adventurous boys.

To maybe illustrate my point further... It's not only about not wearing seat belts because kids think its uncool, or their peers don't wear them. It's about a lot of other things we as kids did or did not do (or were allowed not to) and in the current generation we as parents battle with the change in perception or social norm. Take video games and movies for instance. I "compromised" with my youngest (4 years old ) the other day (to the objection of my wife) and let him watch the whole Star Wars series with his older brothers. My wife and I noticed an immediate behavior change to more violent actions. Anyone think this is good? Even though everyone else is letting their children play very violent video games and watching violent movies? Me thinks not. I have cancelled my DSTV since and spend the extra time on my bike with my kids and other outdoor activities with them. I now download via the internet what I think is appropriate to watch by them. You can add alcohol, drugs, uncontrolled sleepovers, whatever you want to this example. Just because everyone else is doing something, does not mean you have to throw away your brain as well.

I think you are a bit naive in thinking "discussing" will change behavior. Humans are glorified monkeys. Monkey see, monkey do. People change behavior if they have the social incentive to do so.

I'd like you to revisit this post, once you actually have kids one day. Me thinks, (if you are the kind of parent you describe above) that the 95% will turn into 100 % , because all those other things you want to do with your kids will mean nothing if you lose them during that 5 % of time...

If you guys want to break records, looks like today are going to be a scorcher ... 43 degrees in Paarl predicted.

I think this is a good example of what is acceptable in private, (between friends) vs in public .

This is very true and a good argument. In the end what you want is for Hubbers to self regulate and call people to order themselves, if they see someone moving out of line ... The role of Admin would then be to only prevent some group "ganging" up on someone where he receives no support from fellow Hubbers if exposed to personal and verbal attacks. My 2c .

I'll second that !