One of the great things about language, logic and thought, is that you can twist and turn around facts until you are arguing at a 180 degrees from where you have started. Sport and business is not the same thing. The rules are diferent. Intern argues that the two shop owners, being SA champs ext should be treated with leniency because they have done sooooooooo much for the sport, and this should be a mitigating factor. Here is the opposite view. Consider where on the spectrum you lie. (PLEASE McLean and Fritz supporters, this as an academic exercise to present the other view point and is no way reflective of how I feel on the issue. Please do not phone me to tell me how good Cycle lab or FPC's club is and what is being done about cycling development ext I don't want another flame war or sulking on the street corners. My last attempt to present a balanced argument as totally twisted). Lets consider this. Both cyclists were sponsored as riders and won prize money. ie it was their job. That is nice you get paid to do something for the sport? What about me, I actually pay to race, aren't I cantributing more. Then, they open a business to make more money. They start a club to encourage customer loyalty, and organise races (which again they take some form or payement for their efforts) Again they are applauded for doing so much for the sport. Those of us who find inexpensive parts for our friends (like Kiwi ext), serve for no payment on club committees and marshall at club races for FREE, aren't we also contributing to the sport? Now, these guys want to regulate the supply side of cycling so that no shop owner has to go hungry, by pushing up RRP, and some agrro comment about slackers, and we must accept that because they have made a business out of cycling, they should be treated with leinency? That this is a mitigating factor? No, no quarter should be given. They even documented their intention to conspire to financially hurt the cycling community (that is the average cyclist), and now we must be kind to them. The emotion I feel is betrayal. I thought a SA champ would be concerned about the financial inaccessibility of the sport to middle class people. I thought that they would rather be fighting to get the government to reduce import duties on bicycles and subsidise commuters (like in the UK). But noooo, the guys I used to look up to as the champions of the sport and the role models to me and others are actually wanting take more money out of my pocket and reduce cycling into an elitest white man's sport. Now we are looking 180 degrees from what Intern was wanting to say. Logical argument is real cool?KonaFan2009-03-06 04:08:00