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No I don't trust him at all - was just throwing it out there... Actually I trust no-one anymore and that was more my point. I would hate it if Jens turns out to have used as well but I think it was likely that he did....

Help the uninfomred out then. What is the point, 'cos clearly I am one of those missing it... I'm perplexed that some of the same at the front of the Armstrong Lynchmob seem to reckon its cool for medical professionals to facilitate rampant athlete doping....

Valid reasons for use of EPO are quite limited and I don't believe there are any legitimate uses in a healthy person (though I stand to be corrected). Your argument applies better to the likes of test. and HGH.

OK you are right, its sounds like a drag lets not bother.

Correct but this thread is not about cheating sportspeople. There are laws against doctos prescribing scheduled drugs for inappropriate uses. There are also laws defining how controlled and scheduled drugs may be brought into the country. And there are certainly laws preventing pharmicists from providing controlled scheduled drugs without a valid prescription. If any of the above are occurring (and it seems ALL are) then I would like some action taken against those responsible. not just the end user.

So your argument is because there are always ways to circumvent laws we shouldn't bother to try enforce them?

I agree with the OP in the sense that the source needs to be identified and if local pharmicisits and or doctors are involved harsh action needs to be taken. Yes it may be possible to get online etc, but reading some of the other threads around here about how easiliy doctors and pharmicisits are dishig this stuff out, it is probably just as plausible that DG and the boys are not having to try that hard and have some local help

Don't set yourself up for more disapointment there... Tyler Hamilton is publicly casting doubt on Jens as we speak...

Nedbank have put the question out on twitter to Robbie hunter and other for opinons on whether they should drop the entire team or not - so there is still hope that they may not abandon the team entirely. Hope they don't but to be honest if I was them I would probabaly run - the risk of more bad news is just too high...

LOL You sure?

Alrighty then. Thanks for your input, er EPOH ...

That is bizarre. RB definately not good for you especially when you potentially dehydrated

fixie

It is definately dangerous - a number of cyclists habve died in their sleep etc in the 90's and even more recently

www.EPoRus.com

If he is clean Kevin is going to be really screwed over financially by the standard team format in SA marathon mountainbiking races... If innocent if I were him I'd get a good attorney on board and sue DG for his loss of earnings.

wrong... not that I want to go there but Livestrong do have programs in the US that provide direct support to cancer patients. it is true that while they started out primarily fundng research they moved away from this a few years ago to provide cancer support and advocacy - this is up in lights and their donors understand this fully.

Couldn't write that script - what a sporting moment. Shame - remember the pics of the Ferrari pit - joy to horror!

Gerald

2 presenters? Check your facts there or be careful of insinuations...

I don't feel for him - he's gotten a heck of a lot of wins thanks to being in an incredible car. Like Massa circumstances gave him one single chance to be a world champ - they both let that chance slip and won't get another. But at least they can tell their grandkids about the time they "nearly" were number 1 in the world... more than I can say

Robbie Hunter: "Pity that another great sponsor like Nedbank had been burned by fools..."

He missed his window of opportunity. As a ex team mate of Lance he could have spilled the beans, gotten a back dated suspension, been labelled a hero, nice tell all book deal, and carried on regardless...

Dude you clearly made up you mind a long time ago! Lots of things have gone wrong where I haven't heard him bashing anyone else... Quite the opposite even last year when he himself admitted he was off form - after many of the incidents he had he wasn't actually to blame, he still had the likes of Massa and Maldanado 9of all people) publically laying into him - Hami chose to keep quiet and got on with it while he sorted his own s*** out. Same this year - after the incident with maldanado Hamilton doesn't get into it in the media like most drivers do. Give credit where it is due. Love having Kimi back though - nothing complex about him.

I'd agree on you asking the question about Kevin, but Kevin is not one of the guys tweeting who you were commenting on...