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Well yes him and the bookies...! Actually some interesting wild cards I would consider a flutter on (if I were a betting man)... Uran - 200/1, even J-Rod at 14/1.... C Froome 10/11 M Scarponi 300/1 B Feillu 500/1 A Contador 15/8 P Sagan 300/1 L L Sanchez 500/1 Joaquin Rodriguez 14/1 R Kreuziger 300/1 S Gerrans 500/1 T Van Garderen 25/1 T Martin 300/1 B Wiggins N Quintana 25/1 F Kessiakoff 300/1 S Casar 500/1 R Porte 25/1 R Costa 300/1 V Kiryienka 500/1 A Schleck 25/1 T Voeckler 300/1 M Moser 500/1 C Evans 25/1 N Roche 300/1 G Thomas 500/1 A Valverde 25/1 J C Peraud 300/1 C Le Mevel 500/1 R Hesjedal 50/1 J Gadret 400/1 D Arroyo 500/1 J Van Den Broeck 66/1 J Brajkovic 400/1 P Gilbert 500/1 D Martin 80/1 J Vanendert 400/1 F Cancellara 500/1 T Pinot 100/1 C A Sorensen 400/1 P Velits 500/1 P Rolland 100/1 R Taaramae 400/1 M Nieve 500/1 A Talansky 150/1 L Westra 400/1 M Monfort 500/1 R Gesink 150/1 A Kloden 400/1 H Zubeldia 500/1 T De Gendt 150/1 B Mollema 400/1 E Boasson Hagen 500/1 D Cunego 200/1 P Niemiec 400/1 B Intxausti 500/1 R Uran 200/1 I Anton 400/1 R Kiserlovski 500/1 S Henao 200/1 L Leipheimer 500/1 D Pozzovivo 500/1 I Basso 250/1 F Pellizotti 500/1 S Kruijswijk 500/1 J J Cobo 300/1 M Rogers 500/1 D Navarro 500/1 J Coppel 300/1 C Kern 500/1 C Horner 500/1 J Fuglsang 300/1 edit - sorry tables don't paste well - heres a link: http://www.paddypowe.../tour-de-france And here: http://sports.williamhill.com/bet/en-gb/betting/e/3630084/Tour-de-France-2013-Winner.html Chris Froome 17/10 Alberto Contador 14/1 Joaquim Rodriguez 20/1 Nairo Quintana 22/1 Alejandro Valverde 25/1 Andy Schleck 25/1 Tejay Van Garderen 28/1 Cadel Evans 33/1 Richie Porte 33/1 Ryder Hesjedal 40/1 Jurgen Van Den Broeck 50/1 Pierre Rolland 50/1 Thibaut Pinot 66/1 Samuel Sanchez 80/1 Rigoberto Uran 80/1 Robert Gesink 100/1 Damiano Caruso 100/1 Daniel Martin 100/1 Denis Menchov 100/1 Domenico Pozzovivo 100/1 Haimar Zubeldia 100/1 Igor Anton 100/1 Jakob Fuglsang 100/1 Rein Taaramae 100/1 Sergio Henao 100/1 Thomas De Gendt 125/1 Franco Pellizotti 150/1 Andrew Talansky 150/1 Benat Intxausti 150/1 Daniel Moreno 150/1 Edvald Boasson Hagen 150/1 Frederik Kessiakoff 150/1 Janez Brajkovic 150/1 Jonathan Tiernan-Locke 150/1 Juan Jose Cobo 150/1 Michael Rogers 150/1 Michele Scarponi 150/1 Roman Kreuziger 150/1 Vasil Kiryienka 200/1 Andreas Kloden 200/1 Damiano Cunego 200/1 Geraint Thomas 200/1 Ivan Basso 200/1 Jean-Christophe Peraud 200/1 Kevin Seeldraeyers 200/1 Levy Leipheimer 200/1 Mikel Nieve 200/1 Nicholas Roche 200/1 Paolo Tiralongo 200/1 Peter Sagan 200/1 Peter Velits 200/1 Rui Costa 200/1 Sergey Lagutin 200/1

Yup that simplifies things - now he just has to deliver. No pressure!!

whichever one your less likely to get bored on....

those that have heard them give good reports...

KERS version 2014 is not going to be so micky mouse. But I hear ya - very regulated these days. its a catch 22 - I am old school and would love there to be a lot of lattitude for innovation - but then we would likely not see such a close spread of times as we do today.

http://www.formula1.com/news/headlines/2013/3/14419.html

Pretty sure Force India have already confirmed Merc engines for 2014 and beyond... those Ferrari rumours were from last yr I think - been clarified since. Renault have a challenge - as you say they are apparently more expensive but they need more customer teams to stay viable in F1

I'd argue the shortness of the stages are actually in his favour.... better suited to a short sharp attack... from what we saw earlier this yr - froome can generally chase down any attack given enough road - and more often than not he can then counter and distance himself.... But ja, I expect to see a different Alberto from those early encounters...

LOL. Sounds like you are making apologies for Berto already!

agree - seems he likes to run with the hare and hunt with the hounds... As I've said before - he needs to strap on a pair.

One would think, but someone could go the other way as well and try land some early blows... Wonder if Berto has found some form? This is what he has been up to while we were watching the Giro...

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this is not F1 - I am so over it.

Agree on Uran - Cadel was on the ropes yesterday - I think he is happiest of all today...

bumping - I'd like a bigger sample....

No it doesn't count for testing in cycling... But just for you guys - I've added a 5th option.

Ja I wouldn't exactly plan to go slow 11 months out, but, realistically, proabably will be... My main thinking for keeping with my own nutriian is I am using 32GI and would like something equally low GI to sustain me for the full day. Would only start taking Gu's into the run. do they have Gu Roctane on the course which is I think a bit lower GI than Gu Bru?

or the bloody Agent?

It's a tangled web, said the spider...

haha thats what I was going to ask. Well so far you are the only one. Anyone else? Answers on a post card here: https://community.bikehub.co.za/topic/125969-have-you-ever-been-tested-for-peds-at-a-cycling-event/

So I reckon the Hub is a fair representation of the cycling community around the country. Let's get an idea of how much "random" testing is actually going on in our sport.

I'd be very interested to know how many of us here (excluding those racing) have ever been tested at an event they were participating in as a fun ride.... Anyone? I'm not holdin my breath but maybe I'll be surprised....

Aha - cheers - ok so there are 2 special needs bags - 1 for run and one for cycle - that makes sense. In that case I will be inclined to take my own nutrition as far as possible and top up with gu's. Will have to think about warm clothes - would have been nice to leave a jacket in the run special needs for just in case (as it gets later) - but not so much if you can't get it back if you dont use it...

Re special needs bag - can someone explain exactly how much access you have to this on the bike and run? Think I heard you can only access it once during the ride - which seems stange to me? Also is it correct that family cannot give you warm clothes etc later on (for those of us who would be running well into the April night) so you would have to leave this in special needs bag too? (which would be fine as long as you can access it during the run...)