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Dis flippen gusting, close the damn club.
We also don't need to entertain idiot comments like is either. There were some unruly behavior deal with it on it's own merit and take action against the responsible parties once a full investigation occurs.
Hectic
I must admit when I read 'taxi incidents with group of cyclists' I immediately associated it with a Burry Stander situation however after watching the video, it's sad that a few cyclists can ruin the many positive efforts PPA and the city of cape town has made to legitimize the right of cyclists on the rd by enforcing the1,5 m rule.
Wish we as cyclists can't do more to apologise to the victims...yes the drivers in this case were not the aggressors but VICTIMS of cyclists 'mob justice'.
The other sad realization is that it's such a colored or 'gam' mentality, and if it's racist so be it because they have not only acted as individuals but the perception by the hub world tht sees this video is that non whites are animals to behave like this. I can say this because I'm colored too and am deeply distressed as there is no justification for this behavior.
Lastly without having to identify the group, I know the management of this cycling club would never condone this behavior and the many years of sacrifice Mr I has put in to develop and create a reputable club has been destroyed in 10 minutes. I'm actually embarrassed to wear the club kit for the argus.
What I think people should understand is the minute you put on a club or sponsored cycling top you are the Representative of that group no longer ' joe soap' the individual.
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Enjoy, Iv had mine for a year now, love every minute on it in the mountains.
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Noticed you only have the front brake operational, is this work in progress pics.
It looks like a beaut, hope you hv fun
It will be interesting to see how many 650b will be in the field fr th Epic. Giant also has a big push on 650b, would be interesting if they support a team what they would ride. Predominantly 29ers in 2013 and 2012 Epics.
Desi
Your strength to share experience will hopefully enlighten someone to the dangers of riding alone even in 'safe' environments and hopefully prevent another such incident.
Thanx
Cana
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Sorry to hear about your ordeal, as others have said your safety is more important than any possessions.
I went through smits today at about 9am lots of bikers on the rd incidence free, but I must admit one is hyper vigilant till the fish hoek sun valley turn off.
Be safe on the roads and yes I must agree on the advise to not risk riding through any deserted areas in the dark alone.
Regards
Cana
All the best
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I was 110kg and have arch ex with Stan's hoops, bullet proof not a days problems. Can definitely add to support on arch ex, there is also the flow wheels which is slightly stronger as well.
Regards
Chamois Creme R70
First ascent ventoux fingerless gloves at R100 at first ascent sale.
Scott foil 10,
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Iv read some of his journals and it's amazing the many places and experiences he encountered. It's really is sad to accept that a man can travel thru rural Africa in some of the most volatile dangerous war torn countries on earth yet his goods are safer than downtown Cape Town.
I'm sure there will be many offers to replace his bike and as a fellowKaapie would like to assist too but it's the principle and the biggest concern of whether he will feel as comfy on anew bike...remember this bike has been ridden +50 000km, first prize would be to get the fockers who stole the bike
Regards
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Racing with friends around de waal drive with its fantastic sweeping bends, leaning deep in a bIind bend with knee almost on tar as I I accelerate to get traction out the bend to my horror I see a guy 3m from his stuck 1986 cortina in the fast lane trying to warn motorists but for me it was way too late so my 2 month old 2008 Yamaha r6 knocks into the back of the car spinning head over tail eventually landing on the subframe and swing arm crushing both in the process, me for a few seconds flying thru the air thinking am I a bird, am I a plane no I'm not superman as I came crashing down on the tar an instinctive roll and protective gear, I walked away with a bruised ego and a written off 85k R6, whenever I recall the moment I get shivers down my spine as it could have been been much worse.
No it was a good perspective check.
I wonder if BikeLife would finance a discounted deal from the LBS ?
Like you mentioned where the LBS gives you a discount as part of the negotiations.
Worth a shot, then maybe the deal won't be so bad after all; looking at the deals advertised on the hub it appears lbs specific not finance specific.
Cana
That makes a lot of sense! Thanks.
Cash is king
Let the saving begin, which will give me enough time to scout for bargains. Just a pity that it would delay my time on 2 wheels.
I hope I didn't put a spanner in the works but you def would be a lot better off in the long run. Short term sacrifice for long time reward. There are tons of bargains on the hub just scout around, but cash gives you the position of strength to negotiate.
Good luck
Lets say 8% higher.
What are the benefits of buying new? .. do all new bikes have warranties?
Please understand the following if you have cash the lbs will give you between a 10-20% discount off the normal retail price off a bike.
Let's use a practical eg last yr my friend bought a Scott 940 spark,retail was 25500 eventually paid 21000 that was about 18% discount.
According o bike finance the current bike retails for 31900 which means applying he same disc you bike if paid cash should cost pu 26 300, with their payment scheme you pay 6200 upfront an total amount paid is 38700 which is 12 400 more than cash amount. This effectively means you payin about 48% more than the bank loan. Check if you have any penalties on early settlement.
If in 2 years u sell the bike you will get market value on initial new price of 26k not your 38k spent, so value will be around 15k so for along as you will be cycling you be hoes sing because with your first purchase you have lost 23k.
The same applies to all your kit too, full retail price + interest.
These guys make money of your circumstances if you can avoid do so.
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I'm sorry to bring this up, in Saudi Arabia vendors cover their goods with a sheet when they pray and a bowl a person for money for items purchased. They leave their cars running so that when hey return from the shops whether it be in 15min or an hour later their air conditioners hv kept cars cool.
In India with the many poor people vendors at the end of the business day fold their goods in a tarpaulin remove the storm water grate and place it in it go home and the next morning their goods are still there and trade.
We have created a culture of entitlement, we have our African brothers from war orn countries arriving here with nothing but he loses on their backs and within a few years have established themselves as part of the economically successful population.
In contrast to india or saudi arabia we lock our cars bikes houses up with alarms electric fences armed response etc to prevent theft yet we still find ourselves victims.
We have such a beautiful country I wouldn't swap it fr the world however it's such a breath of fresh air when on holiday abroad recently my wife forgot our camera on the Beach for us to return early the next morning to find it exactly where we had forgotten it.
What's the solution, swift decisive justice system.
In Khayelitsha the police are being investigated for allowing kangaroo courts to exist, unfortunately if the people lose faith in the justice or policing system these kangaroo courts and vigilantism will become the order of the day, I'm not by any means proposing this is right
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Very helpful stuff!
Okay here is the conundrum, I will be financing all this through BikeLife (I think their deals are decent enough)
This means, 99% of the gear I purchase will need to be from one store, including the bike.
You would be better off with a bank loan and paying the bank back, as a previous Hubber mentioned in the 2nd hand market you will get a bike for 15 that retails for 25-30, if you purchase new I'm afraid you won't get much the benefit of 'depreciation'. You also don't want to purchase your kit thru bike finance, this will increase your overall costs not necessarily the value, you can pick up bargains on hub when cwc or evobikes have specific item u require on discount, be selective not everything at 1 shop will be good value Cherry pick what u need from these diff outlets.
Good luck
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My advice would be to buy the best bike you can get now and essentials, like 1 cycling kit, helmet and u don't need to even get cleats for now, and based on wht ur budget you can get away with a bike of 14k, R500 on helmet, shop around for chamois shorts at sportsmanship warehouse sale area or any sport shop wher they hv sales. In cape town we hv velotex factory outlet, panda etc, you really don't even need to have a cycling top for now, as you get more monies you can always build on the nice to haves like floor pump, camelback lights tools, for now your focus should be to get th best bang for buck maximum value bike. The diff between 10k and 14k budget is enormous Ito wht you get, for 14k you might get a 1 or 2 yo 29er with good components which will last you at least 4 years, while at 10k you will get entry level bike which in a year you will change and this will cost you way more.
Remember new bike prices are going to rise due to rand devaluing and this will impact significantly on your 2nd hand pices next year.
Good luck and my advice is to put as much if not all of the 15k into the bike and get your family to buy ur b day gift upfront for the year and give each an item on th 'nice to have list' to buy.
Cana
I'm in university estate and access via de waal easiest , I have seen many mtb'ers snaking though lower residential areas from obs quick cross over main rd to queens park area working their way up to footbridge over n2 till they reach the devils peak entrance to TM..
Road seems to be a bit trickier I'm still Tryingto figure that out as well, areas to stay away from lower main rd around Gympie st and Richie street, the traffic in the mornings and afternoons are an absolute nightmare with the busses and taxis.
Very nice
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Yes this does seem to bea bottomless pit, in the last year I spent 90k on a new rd bike Scott 10 foil with sram red and pyga 110 with xt, this excludes any races and the odd upgrade on saddles tires etc, in my mind I believe I have the ultimate tools to keep me going for the next few years therefore the 90k over 4 years is a lot more acceptable. The concern though the year before I bought a cervelo s3 and giant anthem x1 29 and at that point I too thought I had it all i needed and would never spend another cent on equipment for the next few years, but I was clearly wrong.
Friend of mine was bitten on the hand by a moz spitter in Mokolodi last Easter
Dropped from the roof onto his chest while in bed.Tried to ward it off from striking his face
The hospital put him on a drip and washed it out of his system
Shite dude that's like ones worst nightmare.
So Wessel-Louis(hubname),Sidewinder (lol) and myself along with wife and daughter were riding in a private game farm in the Waterberg this December. We were on a sand road (shuttup we were looking for singletrack). Riding down a hill around a right hand bend Wes turns on his saddle and starts shouting and pointing. He has my full attention but I can't quite make out what he is saying? "Brake" why? what...? I stop about 40m down the road as a small tortoise crossing the road comes into view.
"Dude, you nearly rode over a black mamba!!!" Well, Sidewinder and myself nearly rode into its reared head. Apparently about 15cm away. Fortunately daughter and wife followed Wes around the tail. Was extremely vigilant for the rest of the time riding there.
In this case i guess its best that you were not aware of possible danger besides the addition to your shammy creme, instinctive reaction avoiding the snake could have caused a crash and black mambas are renowned to attack rather than retreat.
Shocking incident between van driver and cyclists in Camps Bay
in The Bike Room
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Hi guys
This is an unfortunate embarrassing incident for the club which is not part of their ethos. We cannot be critical of the club because of the unruly behaviour of a few members. The responsible parties will be taken to task.
The behavior portrayed in the video is unacceptable even if provoked i agree however is it now fair to judge MCC because of the action of 1% of its members.