Steven Knoetze (sk27) Posted October 13, 2014 Posted October 13, 2014 OMW, again with the golden boy with the silver spoon vs the poor working class man whose fatger had to work in the salt mines to be able to race.......YAWN. As for using Vettel as a reference, it is common knowledge that he is very much 2nd driver and as such has been let down ny team orders, strategies, etc. Out of interest, anybody else find Rosbergs pitstop a bit fishy. Holding him for an approaching Massa who was MILES away!!! Captain Fastbastard Mayhem and Meezo 2
Johny Bravo Posted October 13, 2014 Posted October 13, 2014 OMW, again with the golden boy with the silver spoon vs the poor working class man whose fatger had to work in the salt mines to be able to race.......YAWN. As for using Vettel as a reference, it is common knowledge that he is very much 2nd driver and as such has been let down ny team orders, strategies, etc. Out of interest, anybody else find Rosbergs pitstop a bit fishy. Holding him for an approaching Massa who was MILES away!!!Salt mines is whipping the golden boy. And most of us are loving every moment of it. As for Vettel, there are no team orders at Red Bull at this stage , and he ignored them throughout his career, do you really think he would obey them now? He is just being out driven by a better driver in the same car. dracs 1
dracs Posted October 13, 2014 Posted October 13, 2014 OMW, again with the golden boy with the silver spoon vs the poor working class man whose fatger had to work in the salt mines to be able to race.......YAWN. As for using Vettel as a reference, it is common knowledge that he is very much 2nd driver and as such has been let down ny team orders, strategies, etc. Out of interest, anybody else find Rosbergs pitstop a bit fishy. Holding him for an approaching Massa who was MILES away!!! Haha so funny. Desperate times for Vettel fans. how to explain... Must be a conspiracy! Johny Bravo and Wez-O 2
Steven Knoetze (sk27) Posted October 13, 2014 Posted October 13, 2014 Haha so funny. Desperate times for Vettel fans. how to explain... Must be a conspiracy!My bad, I suppose a 4x world champion has simply forgotten how to drive...........
dracs Posted October 13, 2014 Posted October 13, 2014 (edited) My bad, I suppose a 4x world champion has simply forgotten how to drive........... Nope, 4 time world champ for the first time only has the second best car on the grid, and for the first time has a team mate who can step up and compete for a world championship himself. Or from race one Red Bull have been trying to make him look bad. hmmmmm.... Edited October 13, 2014 by dracs Johny Bravo 1
'Dale Posted October 13, 2014 Author Posted October 13, 2014 I like this Ricciardo dudeWhat a racer To step out of Seb's shadow takes some doing hey Johny Bravo, Wez-O and dracs 3
Johny Bravo Posted October 13, 2014 Posted October 13, 2014 (edited) Nope, 4 time world champ for the first time only has the second best car on the grid, and for the first time has a team mate who can step up and compete for a world championship himself. Or from race one Red Bull have been trying to make him look bad. hmmmmm....How nico rosberg would have loved to have Mark Webber as a team mate, instead of Lewis Hamilton at mercedes. World title would have been wrapped up mid season allready. Edited October 13, 2014 by Johny Bravo dracs 1
Johny Bravo Posted October 13, 2014 Posted October 13, 2014 (edited) I like this Ricciardo dudeWhat a racer To step out of Seb's shadow takes some doing heyAgreed, I also like the way he races. No dirty tactics like the Maldonados and Sutils etc, good clean racing. Very impressed by him. Edited October 13, 2014 by Johny Bravo
Wez-O Posted October 14, 2014 Posted October 14, 2014 Some drivers are incredibly fast in a fast car but somewhat average when times get tough ... Vettel (like two times world champion Mika Häkkinen back in the 90s) is such a driver. Lets be honest, the Red Bull was untouchable the last four seasons and Vettel had an monkey as a teammate. Johny Bravo 1
Johny Bravo Posted October 14, 2014 Posted October 14, 2014 Some drivers are incredibly fast in a fast car but somewhat average when times get tough ... Vettel (like two times world champion Mika Häkkinen back in the 90s) is such a driver. Lets be honest, the Red Bull was untouchable the last four seasons and Vettel had an monkey as a teammate.True, we can add Montoya and Jacques Villeneuve to that list aswell.
Iwan Kemp Posted October 14, 2014 Posted October 14, 2014 True, we can add Montoya and Jacques Villeneuve to that list aswell. Prost Wez-O 1
Johny Bravo Posted October 14, 2014 Posted October 14, 2014 Prost Mmmmm, I agree with you. But many wont.
Wez-O Posted October 14, 2014 Posted October 14, 2014 Prost I was thinking that driver as well but afraid of the fallout from the Prost fan-boys
Wez-O Posted October 14, 2014 Posted October 14, 2014 As much as I'm not a fan of Hamilton, I can't deny that the guy is a fighter and great driver who deserves this championship more than Rosberg. Rosberg had lady luck on his side for the first two thirds of the season and now that is gone, he looks pretty average...
dracs Posted October 14, 2014 Posted October 14, 2014 (edited) Prost Mmmmm, I agree with you. But many wont. I was thinking that driver as well but afraid of the fallout from the Prost fan-boys Wow. Surely you are not serious!? Example? Compared to his teammates in the same car? I would like to understand the basis for such a weird consensus!! Edited October 14, 2014 by dracs
dracs Posted October 14, 2014 Posted October 14, 2014 (edited) Wow. Surely you are not serious!? Example? Compared to his teammates in the same car? I would like to understand the basis for such a weird consensus!! Prost's record vs team mates, other than his first year in F1, only once did his team mate score more points in a season and that was Lauda by half a point (that half due to Prost's win at Monaco being awarded half points as was stopped early due to rain). Note that the year he lost out to Senna, he only did so because the scoring system at the time included only the 11 best results (and Senna had 1 more race win that year than Prost)... Year Prost's points[1] Team-mates' points[1] Team-mate1980 5 6 John Watson1981 43 11 René Arnoux1982 34 28 René Arnoux1983 57 22 Eddie Cheever1984 71.5 72 Niki Lauda1985 73 (76) 14 Niki Lauda1986 72 (74) 22 Keke Rosberg1987 46 30 Stefan Johansson1988 87 (105) 90 (94) Ayrton Senna1989 76 (81) 60 Ayrton Senna1990 71 (73) 37 Nigel Mansell1991 34 21 Jean Alesi1993 99 69 Damon Hill Edited October 14, 2014 by dracs SeaBee 1
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