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Lewis was leading. Then a safety car. He stopped for tyres but Nico and Seb did not.

Yeah, understood...

Terrible strategic fail the Merc team

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I'm no Hamilton fan but he has every right to be pissed after that. I don't blame him.

 

Hamilton has been remarkably decent / rather forgiving on this whole pit debacle, I've been wondering why.

After watching yesterday it became a bit more obvious why:

He is also partly to blame, so cannot be to critical. Although it could be argued he did not know the full picture.

 

On Sky TV yesterday they showed the full discussion between Hamilton and his pit dude.

 

Copy of the transcript below,

http://www1.skysports.com/f1/news/24181/9876610/lewis-hamiltons-pre-pitstop-monaco-gp-radio-exchanges-revealed

The Mercedes radio exchange

Peter Bonnington: "So, just a reminder, you are in your Safety Car... Virtual Safety Car. Virtual Safety Car. So look at your dash, look at the boards. Keep positive. Stay positive. And you are staying out."

PB: "So we are staying out and you are just staying positive."

PB: "Okay, Lewis, a Safety Car has been deployed."

Lewis Hamilton: "Are you sure it's the best thing to stay out?"

PB: "Nope, we will be boxing the end of the lap. Boxing the end of the lap. So just stay positive. Stay positive. We are going to go +1 ½ turns for the option tyre unless you tell us different."

PB: "Okay Lewis, just give us pit confirm."

PB: "Okay, so we are now staying out. Staying out. Staying out. Just confirm on the radio."

LH: "Guys, that's not good. These tyres have lost all their temperature. Everyone is going to be on options now."

PB: "Okay. Copy, copy. Box, box. Box, box."

PB: "So, cancel brake magic. Cancel the brake magic."

PB: "Caution on pit entry."

PB: "RS modes. RS modes."

PB: "So, cancel RS. Watch the line on pit exit."

LH: "What's happened guys? Guys, what's happened?"

PB: "Okay, Lewis, so we got caught behind. So we're just getting a look now, just having a look now. Just reviewing the video. So stick the brake warming on, let’s get some temperature into these brakes."

PB: "Okay, Lewis. So we have lost the marshalling system so we may need to do something to override DRS."

LH: "I've lost this race, haven't I?"

PB: "Not if they lose all their tyre temp. They're on the prime tyre. You've got very good options on the car at the moment."

LH: "How many laps left?"

PB: "We’ve got 13 laps remaining."

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Hamilton has been remarkably decent / rather forgiving on this whole pit debacle, I've been wondering why.

After watching yesterday it became a bit more obvious why:

He is also partly to blame, so cannot be to critical. Although it could be argued he did not know the full picture.

 

On Sky TV yesterday they showed the full discussion between Hamilton and his pit dude.

 

Copy of the transcript below,

http://www1.skysports.com/f1/news/24181/9876610/lewis-hamiltons-pre-pitstop-monaco-gp-radio-exchanges-revealed

The Mercedes radio exchange

Peter Bonnington: "So, just a reminder, you are in your Safety Car... Virtual Safety Car. Virtual Safety Car. So look at your dash, look at the boards. Keep positive. Stay positive. And you are staying out."

PB: "So we are staying out and you are just staying positive."

PB: "Okay, Lewis, a Safety Car has been deployed."

Lewis Hamilton: "Are you sure it's the best thing to stay out?"

PB: "Nope, we will be boxing the end of the lap. Boxing the end of the lap. So just stay positive. Stay positive. We are going to go +1 ½ turns for the option tyre unless you tell us different."

PB: "Okay Lewis, just give us pit confirm."

PB: "Okay, so we are now staying out. Staying out. Staying out. Just confirm on the radio."

LH: "Guys, that's not good. These tyres have lost all their temperature. Everyone is going to be on options now."

PB: "Okay. Copy, copy. Box, box. Box, box."

PB: "So, cancel brake magic. Cancel the brake magic."

PB: "Caution on pit entry."

PB: "RS modes. RS modes."

PB: "So, cancel RS. Watch the line on pit exit."

LH: "What's happened guys? Guys, what's happened?"

PB: "Okay, Lewis, so we got caught behind. So we're just getting a look now, just having a look now. Just reviewing the video. So stick the brake warming on, let’s get some temperature into these brakes."

PB: "Okay, Lewis. So we have lost the marshalling system so we may need to do something to override DRS."

LH: "I've lost this race, haven't I?"

PB: "Not if they lose all their tyre temp. They're on the prime tyre. You've got very good options on the car at the moment."

LH: "How many laps left?"

PB: "We’ve got 13 laps remaining."

 

So maybe I'm missing something, which I doubt as you've bolded it, but it seems it was Lewis who was pressing the pitting afterall.

By my deduction he basically asked to pit, so who's fault was him.

Him for asking or crew for not saying no????

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So maybe I'm missing something, which I doubt as you've bolded it, but it seems it was Lewis who was pressing the pitting afterall.

By my deduction he basically asked to pit, so who's fault was him.

Him for asking or crew for not saying no????

 

Well imo he was partly to blame, and imo why he is being so civil about the whole issue.

 

I don't think you can blame anyone party, Hamilton thought the others were pitting and that he would be at a disadvantage with older tyres, his pit crew did not tell him that no one (Rosberg and Vettel) had pitted. If he had know that he may have behaved differently.

 

The pit crew also did not have all the info available from whatever live system they monitor showing what the other teams are doing, as it was apparently not working at the time.

 

IF..IF...IF....F1...F1...F1

 

:clap:

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Well imo he was partly to blame, and imo why he is being so civil about the whole issue.

 

I don't think you can blame anyone party, Hamilton thought the others were pitting and that he would be at a disadvantage with older tyres, his pit crew did not tell him that no one (Rosberg and Vettel) had pitted. If he had know that he may have behaved differently.

 

The pit crew also did not have all the info available from whatever live system they monitor showing what the other teams are doing, as it was apparently not working at the time.

 

IF..IF...IF....F1...F1...F1

 

:clap:

 

It really is a sad day when this is the most exciting aspect of the races of late..............

Posted
At least Le Mans should be interesting this year with Porsche uber fast in quali and over a stint and Audi better on tires and fuel.

 

Silverstone 6h turned into a MAMMOTH battle the last 30min. Incredible that they can get that right after HOURS of racing with different engines, fuel types and recovery systems.

 

From motorsport.com

"Porsche destroyed their direct opposition tonight in the first qualifying session for the 83rd Le Mans 24 Hours this weekend.

 

Completing a dominant 1-2-3 clean-sweep, the Porsche 919 Hybrid deployed its immense 8MJ energy retrieval to set the fastest-ever recorded lap on the current 8.47-mile configuration of the Circuit de la Sarthe."

Posted

 

At least Le Mans should be interesting this year with Porsche uber fast in quali and over a stint and Audi better on tires and fuel.
 
Silverstone 6h turned into a MAMMOTH battle the last 30min. Incredible that they can get that right after HOURS of racing with different engines, fuel types and recovery systems.
 
From motorsport.com
"Porsche destroyed their direct opposition tonight in the first qualifying session for the 83rd Le Mans 24 Hours this weekend.
 
Completing a dominant 1-2-3 clean-sweep, the Porsche 919 Hybrid deployed its immense 8MJ energy retrieval to set the fastest-ever recorded lap on the current 8.47-mile configuration of the Circuit de la Sarthe."

 

 

Sounds interesting.....

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