32GI

[SeaBee]

Cool Mark, thanks, you may have explained some of it.

I was in the gym for a short power interval session (20-25 mins) on Thursday evening. Pasta after that, oats next morning, low-GI bread late morning and pasta left-overs late afternoon. That left me feeling full and I did not eat much the evening, think I had a hotdog... Before that I had a short 90 min ride Monday. So I think I would've been reasonably recovered, but ja, maybe not having eaten well the previous evening may then have caused the hunger.

 

But then, the intensity of the ride was not very high! For the most part I cruised in zone 2-3, went into 4 when chasing the rest after a quick break (had too much water before starting!) and that was that. Come to think of it, it was shortly after that bit of effort that I started getting hungry. Intensity lifted a biiiit on the return leg, but no red-mist stuff, still cruising, just a bit harder.

 

Maybe worth mentioning - I've had a flu virus a couple of weeks back and whilst feeling 100% now, I can see on my HR monitor I'm not fully there yet, even when pushing the big climb of the day my HR hardly went to zone 5, despite giving it all I could.

 

Not used any high-GI thingies inbetween, just the 32GI. Had some Hammer gel with me just incase, never felt the need to use it. I was simply hungry.

 

And make no mistake, I'm not putting the product down, just trying to understand it to be able to use it better, because it does seem to work differently than the normal stuff.

 

Edit: Sorry, mixing was 2.5 scoops per 750ml bottle, as I expected us to ride for more than 4 hours, which was the case. Which is correct, to my knowledge. (I did not want to go 2 in one, 3 in the other and rather kept it consistent.)

[AndreZA]

I had a great Jacaranda race with it. Started the day with 3 Weetbix brick and low fat milk and honey. Started my 500ml 32Gi with breakfast and finished the bottle about 40 minutes before the start of the race. Took one bottle mix and one bottle water with me. I only had water for the first hour and then only did I start the 32GI from the other bottle. At the end I still had a bit of mix and water left.

[The Saint]

Yup that's it I find I need additional water on my ride to supplement the 32Gi. On a "normal" 3 hour ride I seem to be ok where intensity is low to medium and only the big kick at the end.

 

On rides like Suikerbos where intensity is always high the 32Gi just makes me more thirsty and water becomes very precious. This is why I have decided not to race with it as intensities are always high and there is no stopping for water during a race.

 

Also we are all using the Raspberry flavor so I will do a flavor change and see if that helps.

[MDW]

If you guys drop me a mail I will send you some sample sachets of the neutral to try also a packet of chews 1st 10 to respond will get otherwise will go broke :-) but I know you are not knocking the product I am just trying to help you with some issues you are experiencing flavour can always play a part in thirst all the best m email mark@32gi.com

[The Saint]

Thanks mate have sent off the mail.

[Ha Ha Kieran]

I use 32GI Raspberry and have never experienced any issues of thirstiness

[The Saint]

I use 32GI Raspberry and have never experienced any issues of thirstiness

That's cause you ride at 15km's per hour At that speed it is hard to get thirsty period

[Part time Biker]

Geno, Hammer is far better than USN so good move, from a nutrition point of view though Hammer is still a high GI product meaning it does spike you, maybe not as much as other solid multodextrin based products, but 32GI will never spike you. If you read the research reports on 32GI you will notice that is was tested by the Freiburg University Sports Medicine Institute against multodextrin based products on elite cyclists. Results showed that the 32GI group outperformed the multodextrin groups by at least 3% which is incredible. The other big difference is that 32GI promotes much fat store tapping for energy and only releases the exact amount of glucose the muscles require, which means, that you go much much longer as your glycogen stores do not deplete as quickly. Price if you look at it per an hour of energy, how much would you pay for a gel which you need to keep taking in every 30-45 minutes as not to dip too much, basically a serving of 32GI guarantees you a minimum of 2 hours of energy, so in a 20 serving bucket which costs R225 at Tony Impey cycles, 1 serving is 2 hours worth which equates to R5.60 per an hour, thats a great deal and the stuff tastes great too, 4 flavours, peach,lime, raspberry and orange.

 

It has all the required electrolytes in it and can be used for carbo-loading or during an event for both energy and rehydration, go figure, its the first low GI endurance drink on the continent and you would have to try it to believe how it works.

If you want even better results you need can use a low GI bar(need to eat on endurance events), Redbar offer just that and the combination is very effective. I recently used Redbar - 32GI combo on Cape Pioneer, worked very well, was alawys strong towards the end of each day

[MDW]

Thanks guys, samples will be sent and will throw in a packet of chews for you as well :-), will notify you once I send them this week so you will know when to expect them. Have a great evening.

[Older]

 

I feel I almost need two bottles of water to one bottle of 32GI. When I get back from a training ride the first stop is downing 500ml of water and then another.

 

It seems to make me more thirsty rather than quenching thirst.

 

I have the same experience every time a train after six beers the night before.

[The Saint]

Amateur, you need to train harder at your beer intake getting thirsty after only 6 is like starting in group zz at 94.7

[rudi-h]

I've read quite a lot of the posts about this stuff and finally seen and tasted it last night at the kinetic night trail run at randpark. I spoke to the salesman and he told me a similar story about the product. Non spiking, sustained energy for 2.5 hours, carbohydrates instead of sugar, don't need to take in any other food etc.

 

There is however something missing with the explanation / marketing of this product...

 

I am an engineer by profession, so firstly I do not believe anything without understanding it, and secondly I work with numbers and facts, not with subjective opinions.

 

The problem is this:

 

When I excercise / race hard, my body burns energy at a rate of roughly 1000 kCal / hour.

 

One serving of 32 GI only contains 189 kCal.

 

If I do the math, that means that for the estimated 2800 kCal that I burn during the 94.7, 32GI can only provide 189 of these. That is less than 7%.

 

If I compare this to my current racing food: (game and snackers bars)

 

2 litres of game (600 kCal)

2 x Snacker / chocolate bars (500 kCal)

1 x Gu (100 kCal)

 

That adds up to 1200 kCal, almost 43% of the energy that I burn.

 

I also realize that sports nutrition is not only a matter of "energy in" vs "energy out", and that the absorption rates, food type, GI and all of that stuff also plays an important role, but please provide a sound scientific explanation as to how it is possible that 32GI will sustain my energy levels "better", even though it has less than 6 times the energy than I currently take in while racing.

 

Please note that I am not running this product down. I have not used it and cannot comment, just curious.

[Reg Lizard]

I also purchased a tub yesterday but my motivation was that it is suitable for diabetics- so for my somewhat increased sugar level it should be perfect. Must however stil give it a go and see if it works.

 

Sales talk is that 7 out of the top 10 tri-athletes use this product, if its true I do not know!

[bikemonster]

Sales talk is that 7 out of the top tri-athletes use this product, if its true I do not know!

 

Without commenting either way on 32GI, those 7 top triathletes would prolly still be top triathletes if they were drinking watered down fruit juice.

[Brighter-Lights]

I've used it in 2 races... it didn't work for me... my power meter showed it... I'm back to my self mixed drink with multodextrin... I believe that the drink will work for something like a 24hr solo or long rides at medium intensity, but at max effort, AVG HR above 180bpm, I need something high Gi... how much fat could you burn in Zone 4 and 5 anyway?

 

But... it's a nice tasting drink, kinda expensive for cooldrink... but a nice cooldrink for long road trips in the car... it'll sustain you past Vosburg, or Branvlei, or Pofadder... just stay away from Putsonderwater...

[lost frog]

Hi,

As an engineer, I did the same math as you, but that was after having spent 3000KCal in a race, with only 2 bottles of 32GI ( 378kcal), and I finished good and with good levels of energy.

so the question is : where the **** did this energy come from?

Answer:

- from the food you had the 2/3 days before the race

- from this pasta evening the evening before the race, which is so important

- from the race's morning breakfast

- from the fat your burn during the race and that is promoted by the low gi stuff.

 

after I realised that (just after starting using 32GI), I controlled my diet on a regular basis and particularly the 2/3 days before a race. I've never had any energy problem since (made about 5 hard races), and it had happened on a regular basis before.

Hope it helps.