GLuvsMtb Posted January 15, 2016 Share I agree (strangely and unfortunately) get to 300 and its a good job for your lot.You lot seems to be in a spot of bother... ol chap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stretch Posted January 15, 2016 Share the last two bowlers to take a wicket on the first ball of thwir test career have both been south africans..piedt and viljoen...there have been 9 in total since the 2nd world war Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stretch Posted January 15, 2016 Share Pollock is an exceptional cricketer but I would not have called him an allrounder Kallis Big Mac Proctor Rice Barlow those are all rounders Zulu and Kemp also spring to mind go look at his batting record almost 4000 runs at an average of 32 with 2 centuries. I would say that constitutes an allrounder. He is continually ranked in the list of top 10 greatest allrounders edit: P.s. Ian bothams average was 33 Edited January 15, 2016 by Stretch 'Dale and GLuvsMtb 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shebeen Posted January 15, 2016 Share They are not all roundersThey are bowlers who can bat a bit.JPD is a batsman who can bowl a bit in the one day game.We have no all rounders at the momentkallis was a genuine all rounder, but his bowling average was average at 32. He wouldn't have played as a bowler alone. There's a loose way to classify an all rounder. Batting average - bowling average. Kallis is +25Philander + 3Duminy - 6 Jp got in as a batsman, and then developed as a reliable bowling option when required. But his primary role is a batsman and he hasn't kicked on since that partnership with steyn all those years ago. GLuvsMtb 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stretch Posted January 15, 2016 Share kallis was a genuine all rounder, but his bowling average was average at 32. He wouldn't have played as a bowler alone. There's a loose way to classify an all rounder. Batting average - bowling average. Kallis is +25Philander + 3Duminy - 6 Jp got in as a batsman, and then developed as a reliable bowling option when required. But his primary role is a batsman and he hasn't kicked on since that partnership with steyn all those years ago. so according to that ... hadlee +5Botham +5Dev +2 and to reinforce..pollock +9 GLuvsMtb 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shebeen Posted January 15, 2016 Share go look at his batting record almost 4000 runs at an average of 32 with 2 centuries. I would say that constitutes an allrounder. He is continually ranked in the list of top 10 greatest allrounders edit: P.s. Ian bothams average was 33using the batting - bowling yardstick pollock +9big mac +6klusener - 5botham +6imran khan +15steve waugh +14kapil dev +2garry sibers +23ben stokes -8 Stretch 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shebeen Posted January 15, 2016 Share so according to that ... hadlee +5Botham +5Dev +2 and to reinforce..pollock +9shakib al hasan is in good company at +6. if you look at the official rankings - http://www.relianceiccrankings.com/ranking/test/all-rounder/ it's mainly all bowlers who can bat a bit, with mohammed hafeez and angelo mathews being the exceptions down the list. but to get back on point - you don't need allrounders when your top 6 batsmen are hitting runs and your four bowlers are firing - they come in to fill the gaps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hboli4 Posted January 15, 2016 Share Root and Stokes currently caning it...Morris going over 5.00 p/over again...flashbacks of Newlands... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GLuvsMtb Posted January 15, 2016 Share Root and Stokes currently caning it...Morris going over 5.00 p/over again...flashbacks of Newlands...England playing brilliantly. Almost Aussie-like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hboli4 Posted January 15, 2016 Share England playing brilliantly. Almost Aussie-like.Very much so. Looked like AB had the same idea when he came out, dominate the attack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milky4130 Posted January 15, 2016 Share New twist to the March Fixing Scandal; along with Goolam Boodi, 2 current test players, not part of the England Series are implicated, I'm Pretty certain we can now come to our own conclusions who that could be, but please no naming, lol!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milky4130 Posted January 15, 2016 Share http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/cricket/article-3401497/South-Africa-corruption-scandal-takes-dramatic-new-twist-emerges-two-active-Test-players-investigated.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christie Posted January 16, 2016 Share 2 test players? Recent ones can be Reeza Hendricks, Philander, Harmer. Tahir is in this series' odi squad. The list should be short - who else am I leaving out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor Buttox Posted January 16, 2016 Share New twist to the March Fixing Scandal; along with Goolam Boodi, 2 current test players, not part of the England Series are implicated, I'm Pretty certain we can now come to our own conclusions who that could be, but please no naming, lol!!No naming, but can we try shaming? Under the "Miway, or the Hub way' rule for shameful emotional accusations, I will stick to my original suggestion from a few days ago. The performances he gave are too odd, in my Hubble opinion. (OK, so who would have been a current Test player, not playing against the English, who would have been in the Ram Slam? Harmer, Piedt and them were in India. Lopsy? He was just One day, as far as I can remember. Parnell? Rilee Rossouw - think he's in the current squad.Philander. Place your bets, Sherlock! Edited January 16, 2016 by Thor Buttox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christie Posted January 16, 2016 Share Sounds like the wheels came off our bowling unit yesterday afternoon and this morning. At least they got 2 wickets. Our batting is still below par, and the bowling without Dale and Vern is inconsistent - mostly poor with a good ball now and then. England is scoring at over 4 runs to the over on a helpful pitch! At least we are giving new guys a go - I hope Morris, Viljoen, Abbott and Rabada will be the attack when the other guys retire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
'Dale Posted January 16, 2016 Share Yes, Christie While the results are somewhat against the Proteas, the unit is quietly and importantly rebuilding and bringing in new blood: RABADAAAAAA and Chuck Morris are pretty awesomeVilas also took some superb catches Piedt is also pretty steady and will always be a good spinning option Mntboy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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