Stans vs American classic

[Mtberct]

I know this has been discussed but so many people have conflicting views. I even get different answers when I consult bike stores.

 

Which would be more suitable for a 95 kg rider.

2012 American Classics or Stans Ztr crest?

 

Thanks

[Mtberct]

I am concerned about the strength of the wheels

[baie-sukkel]

To be honest with you,neither ! I am also a 95kg rider,and these are not a bullet proof set a 95kg weight,sorry !

[arendoog]

I know this has been discussed but so many people have conflicting views. I even get different answers when I consult bike stores.

 

Which would be more suitable for a 95 kg rider.

2012 American Classics or Stans Ztr crest?

 

Thanks

I weigh 95kg and have been riding with crest on a HT for 6 months. No problems so far .I might add i don,t ride downhills as reckless as some riders .I need to be able to work with my hands the next day .My other bomb proof wheelset are mavic 719

[RollandBounce]

depends - I had my stans rims custom built rode on them like I stole them after two years still running true - had them for a year on a hard tail and a year on a soft tail - but best try and spend the few buck more and get a custom built wheelset with stans rims

[Rob Mortimer]

I am in that weight class and went with ZTR Arch. No problems thus far

[hdp_gmx]

I am 107Kg with kit and went for Flow's with Hope hubs (rear SS), have not ridden them yet but they are All Mountain rims and obviously a bit heavier (which doesnt bug me, ill take strength over weight any day) they are the strongest rims that Stan's offer

[splat]

I know this has been discussed but so many people have conflicting views. I even get different answers when I consult bike stores.

 

Which would be more suitable for a 95 kg rider.

2012 American Classics or Stans Ztr crest?

 

Thanks

 

ZTR Arch Ex is the way to go. 1700g wheelset with a 105kg weight limit

 

Stans

 

I dont know when they will arrive here though...

[hdp_gmx]

ZTR Arch Ex is the way to go. 1700g wheelset with a 105kg weight limit

 

Stans

 

I dont know when they will arrive here though...

According to the SA Supplier they have plenty stock of the Arch EX rims, you can get hubs from CRC or locally and have a set built up. If you want to build Jason from International Trading is a good choice. Paired with some hope hubs they are a great combo. Edited May 18, 2012 by hdp_gmx

[scotty]

Ditto for Arch, iv'e had mine about 8 months with no issues.

[splat]

According to the SA Supplier they have plenty stock of the Arch EX rims, you can get hubs from CRC or locally and have a set built up. If you want to build Jason from International Trading is a good choice. Paired with some hope hubs they are a great combo.

 

Ah yes, I see that they have it on their website: Two Wheels Trading

 

And I have seen them on CRC, but not on local online shops yet

[Kevin07]

Speak to Ngala24 on the hub for good prices on Hope hubs

[Iwan Kemp]

I don't see a wheel size reference by the OP, maybe we should start there!

 

TWT has 29er Arch EX, but 26" stock won't be readily available for another couple of months. You can get some online byt they are $100 at the moment. Bit crazy. Cheapest option for killer Stans deal is www.superstarcomponents.com I have a 26" Arch EX, CX-Ray wheel set on it's. Unfortunately Arch & Sapim stock is only available in wheel sets from them.

 

In terms of strength I think Crest is more than strong and stiff enough for most XC riders. I weigh 95k's and Crests have been reliable, true and tough enough for me. But with Arch coming down in weight and increasing in width it will be the safer more all-round option.

 

Also had two I9 wheel sets so far with Flow rims and they are indeed bomb proof. I run my tires super soft and have never had an issue. Weight / Strength ratio cannot be beaten.

 

Back to the OP's question: it'll help saying

1. which wheel size
   
2. what type of riding you do
   
3. Which AC model are you talking about
   

Some guys will kill XC rims on XC rides, others seem to be able to do semi-DH rides on XC hoops.

Edited May 18, 2012 by The Crow

[Rapunzel]

a bit late off the mark in this thread - I have ztr crest on A2Z hubs on my hardtail 29er and american classics on my DS 26er. Both have now done about the same mileage and I've had to have my ZTR's trued about 4 times already (granted I ride them pretty hard, with low tire pressure but I'm less than 60kg). The American classics are still true as the day they were bought.

[Iwan Kemp]

A wheel has to cope with a lot more forces on a HT than a DS.

[Bike Mob]

I know a 115kg dude riding the Amclassics without needing them trued ever. Run high enough air pressure and you wont ding the rims.

 

I would say if you want the best blend of weight and strength at your weight get a crest front and an arch rear and you can run lower pressures than the amclassics.

 

PS: MTB mom - your wheels are going out of true due to a bad build and not the rims fault. those nipples need to be loctite secured to stop them from "uncrewing" under torque and torsion loads. I had the same problem - fixed by Lance at Epic bike shop.