carbon29er Posted October 17, 2012 Share Oh man this puzzle is starting to fill in now. The frame was built now the real picture is coming together. If what he says is true, there is a possibility that the American riders are the orchestrators of the alleged conspiracy, with the USADA aiding and abedding them. Oh more twists and twirls than a twist and twirly thingCan I have some of the stuff you are on? Wow, it's strong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoLefty!! Posted October 17, 2012 Share Ah the usual hubber shooter downer sheeper herder response. try to keep an open mind and don't pick sides or you'll miss the entertainment value in it all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fandacious Posted October 17, 2012 Share http://www.cyclingne...ing-accusations The first hole in the USADA allegations.$1,000,000 over 10 years is not excessive for this level of sports consultancy. ferrari is so deeply entrenched in doping, that he isnt even allowed to practice anymore. And yet you still believe he only coached them and never helped them dope at all? petatodd 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Low Posted October 17, 2012 Share The first hole in the USADA allegations.$1,000,000 over 10 years is not excessive for this level of sports consultancy.The affidavits are the accused word against the accuser. USADA has compiled a lot of this trusting that the number will be impressive enough to spawn more his word against my word affidavits. Didn't Schumi long to start firing back. He also provides some insight into the accusers all being based in the same location and off the same nationality.... Oh man this puzzle is starting to fill in now. The frame was built now the real picture is coming together. If what he says is true, there is a possibility that the American riders are the orchestrators of the alleged conspiracy, with the USADA aiding and abedding them. Oh more twists and twirls than a twist and twirly thing Very poor analysis Go Lefty, and you'd be doing well the last couple of days in appearing more reasonable. ...and the Blackadder quote is more like: "More twists and turns than a twisty, turny thing" petatodd and TNT1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fandacious Posted October 17, 2012 Share the numbers in question Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcza Posted October 17, 2012 Share Ferrari's claim of USADA conspiracy - http://53x12.com/do/show?page=article&id=123 Apologies if this is old news Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tumbleweed Posted October 17, 2012 Share Those figures are kinda high for getting advice from a "website"... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TNT1 Posted October 17, 2012 Share Very poor analysis Go Lefty, and you'd be doing well the last couple of days in appearing more reasonable. ...and the Blackadder quote is more like: "More twists and turns than a twisty, turny thing" Ya, Andrew seems to be losing the plot... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PNQk0VPX3nY&feature=related Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcza Posted October 17, 2012 Share Taylor Phinney Interview: Getting the pill culture out of the sport Read more: http://www.velonation.com/News/ID/13076/Taylor-Phinney-Interview-Getting-the-pill-culture-out-of-the-sport.aspx#ixzz29XtVh9q1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwissVan Posted October 17, 2012 Share Those figures are kinda high for getting advice from a "website"... Well you dont expect LA to pay the same fee as Joe 7to5 Pleb does for a 180 day program, true consultancy fee's by highly qualified individuals are usually linked to what the customer can afford to pay i.e. the size of the bank account from whence the payment comes... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcza Posted October 17, 2012 Share So what's happening today then...... - Ekimov & Vino unveiled as managers of Katusha and Astana. Is it any wonder cycling makes you do a cartoonish double take on a daily basis? - Matt White sacked. - Festina's Neil "Thought it was Vitamins not EPO" Stephens not sacked. - Bruyneel Replaced by 7 times positive Kim Andersen. - Stu O'Grady makes a t*t of himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted October 17, 2012 Share Well you dont expect LA to pay the same fee as Joe 7to5 Pleb does for a 180 day program, true consultancy fee's by highly qualified individuals are usually linked to what the customer can afford to pay i.e. the size of the bank account from whence the payment comes...You would have thought if it was underhand and for doping advice they would have tried to cover it up and not have been so blatant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fandacious Posted October 17, 2012 Share Those figures are kinda high for getting advice from a "website"... actually they look kinda low. $100k / year? thats fk all. wheres the rest of it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tumbleweed Posted October 17, 2012 Share You would have thought if it was underhand and for doping advice they would have tried to cover it up and not have been so blatant. I thought he wasn't using his services at all... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fandacious Posted October 17, 2012 Share I thought he wasn't using his services at all... bingo.... that point is raised many times in the USADA document. Theres lots of happenings that wouldnt ordinarily be considered shady, but because armstrong so vehemently denied them, it raised many eyebrows Edited October 17, 2012 by fandacious Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted October 17, 2012 Share bingo.... that point is raised many times in the USADA document. Theres lots of happenings that wouldnt ordinarily be considered shady, but because armstrong so vehemently denied them, it raised many eyebrowsUSADA have their ducks in a row and factually correct. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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