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[Delgado]

And bitching and moaning is gonna accomplish what?

Negate apathy perhaps!!!

[Delgado]

"Emancipate yourselves from mental slavery

For none but ourselves can free our minds.........."

 

The one thing that puzzles me at the moment though is how handy the advent of power failures are so soon after "Polokwane"where ThaBOB MugaBEKI got his lame duck ar$e kicked into touch!!

[Guest Big H]

And bitching and moaning is gonna accomplish what?

Negate apathy perhaps!!!

 

Does THAT word not short a D at the end!!!!!!

[barrykm]

 

All this still stems from denying basic human rights from the offset. If the previous regime had treated everyone equally we would not be sitting with the problems we have now will we?

A bit like selling my car on the brink of engine failure and telling the you that it's been running fine, and not had a day off trouble with it...

 

Utter boll**ks!

[ecg15]

  dude i feel for her and the husband.

thats so pathetic.

 

a dude hopped the pavement with his camper van down where we live, bashed scrapped and knocked 10 cars out the way stopped at the speeding camera and traffic light waited for it to turn green and then bashed the front car out the way. one of those 10 cars was ours. my wife scared out of her wits came home crying and shaking.

i told he to relax and we will sort it out.

 

luck would have it driving down to my parents in law what car was in front of us... the freakin camper van. we followed him home whilst callin the police. all the police said was take down the number plate and they will sort it out during the week. LOL like i would have that. we continued to follow this PRAT to his house and we called another police station. after waiting an hour we went to fetch them. we found out the guys was drunk , high as a kite and never had a drivers license. the cops told us to leave they would sort it out.

 

2 days past and then i found the cops to find out what happened. they had no idea what i was talking about nor did they have the case number. my wife bought them a 2 liter coke the previous day to say thanks for the help and when i mentioned that they also did not know anything about that and put down the phone.

 

NICE. in the cops we trust lol. i trust my dogs more

 

 

[Velouria]

 

To some, the SA of 1994 is barely recognisable: [Wiki]

 

# Housing: Between 1994 and the start of 2001 over 1.1 million cheap houses eligible for government subsidies had been built, accommodating 5 million of the estimated 12.5 million South Africans without proper housing..

# Clean water: By the beginning of 1998, standpipes had been installed within 200 metres of the dwellings of about 1.3 million rural people. By August of that year, Minister of Water Affairs Kader Asmal stated that since he had taken office more than 2.5 million people had been given access to fresh safe water. By 2000, a total of 236 projects had supplied clean piped water to nearly 4.9 million people -- most of whom were inhabitants of former homelands.

# Electrification: Between 1994 and May 2000 around 1.75 million homes had been connected to the national grid, while the proportion of rural homes with electricity grew from 12% to 42%.

# Land reform: By 1999 some 39,000 families had been settled on 3,550 square kilometres of land. Authorities claimed that 250,000 people had 'received land' within four years.

# Healthcare: Between April 1994 and the end of 1998, around 500 new clinics gave an additional 5 million people access to primary health care facilities. Under the polio-hepatitis vaccination programme that began in 1998, 8 million children were immunised within two years.

 

While I personally didn't benefit from any of the above, millions of people will tell you life in SA right now is just great. It's all about perspective. And we have to make sure our government doesn't lose it.

 

Velouria2008-01-28 10:13:55

[porky]

One just has to read these posts to understand we are no further along now than we were 14 or even 20 years ago. 

 

We can all relate horror stories, me included, will it benefit anyone?.......I dont think so, my priest had a wonderfull sermon on Sunday past, he said.........................

 

....................there will always be injustice, and there will always be things we dont understand, the load may appear so big and so heavy that we dont really know if we can finish, but all that matters is we make a start and we do what we can,......... God will do the rest. 

 

[SwissVan]

One just has to read these posts to understand we are no further along now than we were 14 or even 20 years ago. 

 

We can all relate horror stories' date=' me included, will it benefit anyone?.......I dont think so, my priest had a wonderfull sermon on Sunday past, he said.........................

 

....................there will always be injustice, and there will always be things we dont understand, the load may appear so big and so heavy that we dont really know if we can finish, but all that matters is we make a start and we do what we can,......... God will do the rest. 

 

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Hmm... and I wonder how many Rhodies (Zimbabweans )had similar thoughts 

 

 

SwissVan2008-01-28 12:08:50

[linnega]

 

 

To some' date=' the SA of 1994 is barely recognisable: [Wiki']

 

# Housing: Between 1994 and the start of 2001 over 1.1 million cheap houses eligible for government subsidies had been built, accommodating 5 million of the estimated 12.5 million South Africans without proper housing..

# Clean water: By the beginning of 1998, standpipes had been installed within 200 metres of the dwellings of about 1.3 million rural people. By August of that year, Minister of Water Affairs Kader Asmal stated that since he had taken office more than 2.5 million people had been given access to fresh safe water. By 2000, a total of 236 projects had supplied clean piped water to nearly 4.9 million people -- most of whom were inhabitants of former homelands.

# Electrification: Between 1994 and May 2000 around 1.75 million homes had been connected to the national grid, while the proportion of rural homes with electricity grew from 12% to 42%.

# Land reform: By 1999 some 39,000 families had been settled on 3,550 square kilometres of land. Authorities claimed that 250,000 people had 'received land' within four years.

# Healthcare: Between April 1994 and the end of 1998, around 500 new clinics gave an additional 5 million people access to primary health care facilities. Under the polio-hepatitis vaccination programme that began in 1998, 8 million children were immunised within two years.

 

While I personally didn't benefit from any of the above, millions of people will tell you life in SA right now is just great. It's all about perspective. And we have to make sure our government doesn't lose it.

 

You know what they say, you get lies, damn lies and statistics.  Housing projects have failed in many areas around the country.  For many the dream of a roof over their heads has been shattered by corruption, nepotism and the greed of needy people selling their free house to turn a quick profit. 

 

Water projects were rolled out to millions of dwellings in rural areas.  Most water projects though were very poorly managed with the KZN project recording 60% more than were actually delivered, and many of the projects delivered included fraudulent payments to contractors or sub-contractors.  Since 1998 very little progress has been made in water projects due to in-fighting in DWAF and rampant corruption among the contractors that were tasked with delivering water.  A monument of SA sport (the Dusi) only went ahead because the municipality refused to release ecoli readings prior to the race.  It was unsafe for anyone to be in that river thanks to mismanagement of sewerage disposal, and the Dusi would have been cancelled if the organisers had access to the results in time.  It is fortunate that no-one died.

 

I don't think we need to talk about the electrical situation with almost every facet of our economy being severely impacted by the outages. 

 

Land reform is way behind schedule with the rules of entitlement being so vaguely defined that the majority of land claims being blocked by the current owners.  The legislation is being radically redrawn to try and facilitate future land claims. 

 

Healthcare has had minor successes particularly in rural areas where the very low base (ie no healthcare) was easy to improve on.  State hospitals have suffered with rampant mismanagement and many are failing to provide any service at all.  The state's approach to AIDS has become the source of international ridicule and the epidemic is worse in South Africa than anywhere else in the world.  Far less developed countries (like Uganda) have successfully combated AIDS through simple cheap education programmes.

 

I understand the need for a balanced viewpoint, but it is difficult to be objectively positive in the current environment.

linnega2008-01-28 12:40:44

[porky]

Yes some interesting facts Linnega, on the healthcare issue I can tell you that pre 94 the old "BARAGWANATH HOSPITAL" was rated as one of the top academic hospitals in the world, it was better equiped and staffed and run than many first world hospitals in the UK, USA and Europe.

 

Medical academics came from all over to train there.

 

Sadly we all know whats come of it today.

 

[gianni]

And bitching and moaning is gonna accomplish what?

 

Make me feel better for not just sitting down and taking it' date=' atleast by voicing my opinion I am getting some vaseline to go with being F$#^ed over the whole time

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Is complaining the same as doing ? 

[slowpoke]

So my point is still' date=' if your ass is thrown in jail, its coz you have done something wrong...if you are innocent, you need not worry. [/quote']

 

you are wrong - she did NOT do anything wrong and yet was thrown into jail for 24hours before they would charge her. she has been released on a "warning" and has to appear in court at the end of Feb to prove her innocence. SA claims towork ont he basis of "innecent until proven guilty" and yet she is being treated exactly the opposite of this and was denied any dignity and most of her basic human rights.

[slowpoke]

KF has hit the nail ont he head... if every one of you that bitches and moans will actually go vote then there will be a chance of being heard. every single election time you hear hundreds of people saying "what's the point?" and refusing to vote. if tehy all did their part then guess what, the results would look totally different.