Calling on you gamers

[Steven Knoetze (sk27)]

Looking for a good, used PS4 pro, 1Tb.
If anyone knows of a good one for sale please |PM me.

[Jurgens Smit]

What's everyone's opinion on the absurd price of anything to do with gaming lately?
I read an interesting article last night, that due to the manufacturing costs that are rising for GDDR6 the RTX 30xx cards are getting a price increase again.

 

This made me rethink my choices when it comes to PC gaming.

On the one hand, getting 100 FPS + in new games would be incredible and ray tracing just looks amazing. But to upgrade my rig (16GB DDR4, Ryzen 1700 x GTX 1080) to get that would at the minimum require me to look at upgrading CPU, Motherboard and GPU. With the 30 series GPU costing 14k on average and a CPU/Board combo looking at another 10k, I'm struggling to justify dropping 24k on a PC that will need to be upgraded again in 3 years time.

I love gaming. I love immersing myself in the incredible worldbuilding and story telling we see with games like Assassins Creed, Uncharted, Witcher, RDR2 and so many more. The graphics on them look incredible and with so many new similar games launching, just getting them to run at decent FPS would need an upgrade for many people.

What I've personally been looking at doing is selling my PC and moving over to PS5. Most games lately support keyboard and mouse on console should I want it. I can buy a 4k tv and ps5 for less than it would cost to upgrade my pc, and at the same time get better performance than my pc would get. I have a 144Hz monitor to hook the console up to in the interim.

 

What do you all think?

 

PS - I know I'm not forced to upgrade, but eventually at some point every PC gamer will need to which is kinda the point to this post.

[Captain Fastbastard Mayhem]

What's everyone's opinion on the absurd price of anything to do with gaming lately?

I read an interesting article last night, that due to the manufacturing costs that are rising for GDDR6 the RTX 30xx cards are getting a price increase again.

 

This made me rethink my choices when it comes to PC gaming.

On the one hand, getting 100 FPS + in new games would be incredible and ray tracing just looks amazing. But to upgrade my rig (16GB DDR4, Ryzen 1700 x GTX 1080) to get that would at the minimum require me to look at upgrading CPU, Motherboard and GPU. With the 30 series GPU costing 14k on average and a CPU/Board combo looking at another 10k, I'm struggling to justify dropping 24k on a PC that will need to be upgraded again in 3 years time.

 

I love gaming. I love immersing myself in the incredible worldbuilding and story telling we see with games like Assassins Creed, Uncharted, Witcher, RDR2 and so many more. The graphics on them look incredible and with so many new similar games launching, just getting them to run at decent FPS would need an upgrade for many people.

 

What I've personally been looking at doing is selling my PC and moving over to PS5. Most games lately support keyboard and mouse on console should I want it. I can buy a 4k tv and ps5 for less than it would cost to upgrade my pc, and at the same time get better performance than my pc would get. I have a 144Hz monitor to hook the console up to in the interim.

 

What do you all think?

 

PS - I know I'm not forced to upgrade, but eventually at some point every PC gamer will need to which is kinda the point to this post.

You wouldn't get better performance. Seriously. GO see whAt the comparable specs are for ACTUAL performance parity. But for couch based gaming, ps5 is the way to go.

 

Why not both? The 1080 still slays, and your 1700x shouldn't be holding you back that much at all.

 

Oh. One more thing. Go watch the hardware unboxed stuff, as well as the tech Jesus (gamers nexus?) Stuff on gpu and "basic" CPUs.

 

Also Linus recently did an Xbox series x build comparison recently. See the actual specs they came out with.

Edited January 28, 2021 by Captain Fastbastard Mayhem

[Jurgens Smit]

You wouldn't get better performance. Seriously. GO see whAt the comparable specs are for ACTUAL performance parity. But for couch based gaming, ps5 is the way to go.

 

Why not both? The 1080 still slays, and your 1700x shouldn't be holding you back that much at all.

 

Oh. One more thing. Go watch the hardware unboxed stuff, as well as the tech Jesus (gamers nexus?) Stuff on gpu and "basic" CPUs.

 

Also Linus recently did an Xbox series x build comparison recently. See the actual specs they came out with.

Sorry should clarify, from what I've seen in general, console games perform better than their counter parts on PC. I'm assuming due to code optimization for a single hardware set and OS vs building for minimum specs. Same as why (IMO) with apple devices less is more. (less ram, smaller cpu etc.).

 

For example ps4 Horizon ZD feels a lot smoother at +- 30fps than at 70 on pc.

 

In terms of gaming on PC, I'm a bit of a graphics freak there (my own preference) but I struggle to play games and fully enjoy them if the quality looks a little ***. Granted low settings on Cyberpunk look great vs low settings of a game thats 5 yrs old now (for example).

 

Throw into that, 4k gaming performs better when you look at price for performance on console than PC. even when you throw in a extra 10k for a very decent 4k tv.

 

My CPU is holding me back at this stage, been running a few tests with it.

Nothing major, but I know in the next year or so I am going to start noticing it.

Need to get that extra 50fps in CS:GO

 

But thanks for the vids, will defs go check them out and see what they say.

My post was mainly an idea, but I am a little tired of forking out a ton of cash every 3/4 years just to carry on playing at high settings. Especially given that stuff is getting waay more expensive.

Edited January 28, 2021 by Jurgens Smit

[Jurgens Smit]

Also, to add to the above, most games are going cross play now (like COD MW and Cold War) so console makes a lot of sense for me as it's cheaper, for still great graphics quality and I still get to warzone with my mates.

[The Ghost]

It’s why I went console years ago.

The developers have to make the game work on the hardware rather than making what they want and then me having to keep upgrading hardware.

I was just always having to upgrade.

There is less choice of games though, but I can live with that.

[Captain Fastbastard Mayhem]

Also, to add to the above, most games are going cross play now (like COD MW and Cold War) so console makes a lot of sense for me as it's cheaper, for still great graphics quality and I still get to warzone with my mates.

Very true, indeed. As long as you can set the FOV properly.... the standard console FOV is retarded. 

[Rocket-Boy]

Also, to add to the above, most games are going cross play now (like COD MW and Cold War) so console makes a lot of sense for me as it's cheaper, for still great graphics quality and I still get to warzone with my mates.

You still get to warzone with your mates, only at a handicapped level.

Unless there is some form of aiming assistance for consoles then they are always behind the accuracy of a mouse and keyboard.

[Jurgens Smit]

You still get to warzone with your mates, only at a handicapped level.

Unless there is some form of aiming assistance for consoles then they are always behind the accuracy of a mouse and keyboard.

There is aim assist on controller AFAIK.

But if I go that route I will be using Keyboard and Mouse on the console, they are supported in a few games.

[bmw1za]

HELP .... Morning Gang

 

Struggling with a Ryzen 5600 build that wont post , 

 

Asus 570 prime mobo , Ballistics Ram (2 x 16) 

 

fans spin up ... no onboard speaker to listen to beeps. 

 

Tried obvious ram slot swopping, single , dual etc . tried other graphics card , no post at all.

 

sent CPU Back , confirmrmed working with a report. Sent Mobo Back, manufacturer said faulty... supplied a brand new one .

 

same outcome, no post( No display outputting). 

 

dont have another cpu (3600 or 2700 to see if it at least boots up as it may need a bios update) .

 

Everything ordered online ... anyone in gauteng that has parts to swop and test so i know what the hell to replace for him. might even just be simple like a psu with 1 mad pin ... 

 

Suggestions groot ASSEBLIEF 

[usxorf]

HELP .... Morning Gang

 

Struggling with a Ryzen 5600 build that wont post , 

 

Asus 570 prime mobo , Ballistics Ram (2 x 16) 

 

fans spin up ... no onboard speaker to listen to beeps. 

 

Tried obvious ram slot swopping, single , dual etc . tried other graphics card , no post at all.

 

sent CPU Back , confirmrmed working with a report. Sent Mobo Back, manufacturer said faulty... supplied a brand new one .

 

same outcome, no post( No display outputting). 

 

dont have another cpu (3600 or 2700 to see if it at least boots up as it may need a bios update) .

 

Everything ordered online ... anyone in gauteng that has parts to swop and test so i know what the hell to replace for him. might even just be simple like a psu with 1 mad pin ... 

 

Suggestions groot ASSEBLIEF 

I think you might be on the money with the BIOS update, check if your motherboard has bios flashback (it should). There'll be a detailed guide from asus, but it's pretty much just connect the motherboard to the power supply (doesnt need cpu/graphics/memory installed) with the bios on a flash drive, press the bios flashback and wait 5-10 minutes.

 

I had to do this with an msi b550, was easy apart from the formatting the usb needed (had to format it as non-bootable).

[The Bull Shark]

I think you might be on the money with the BIOS update, check if your motherboard has bios flashback (it should). There'll be a detailed guide from asus, but it's pretty much just connect the motherboard to the power supply (doesnt need cpu/graphics/memory installed) with the bios on a flash drive, press the bios flashback and wait 5-10 minutes.

 

I had to do this with an msi b550, was easy apart from the formatting the usb needed (had to format it as non-bootable).

 

What he said.

[bmw1za]

What he said.

Thanks guys, will try that and then give feedback

[The Bull Shark]

Thanks guys, will try that and then give feedback

 

Also, after that, try and update the BIOS to the latest.

[bmw1za]

Also, after that, try and update the BIOS to the latest.

okay bad luck, board does not support flashback... buying a cpu just to be able to flash a bios seems a bit expensive ... hands over eyes

[The Bull Shark]

okay bad luck, board does not support flashback... buying a cpu just to be able to flash a bios seems a bit expensive ... hands over eyes

 

Just ask the PC shop to help you with one of their 3300 or 3600 CPUs to flash the BIOS. It's the least they can do. They should have a test bench at the shop. If they do not they are clueless and you should not shop there again in future.

Edited January 29, 2021 by Moridin