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[The Bull Shark]

AMD Starts Selling Custom Bikes

https://www.pcmag.com/news/amd-starts-selling-custom-bikes

 

 

LOL. Will they over-promise and under-deliver here also?

[The Bull Shark]

Sooo...

 

Who is getting an RTX 3080 tomorrow?

 

I am still quite happy with my ASUS ROG Strix 1080Ti. Got it for R5K from my boet last year.

Edited September 16, 2020 by Moridin

[The Bull Shark]

So the next Xbox, the top one, will cost less than a Nvidia RTX 3070.

https://mybroadband.co.za/news/gaming/366766-xbox-series-s-and-x-pre-order-and-launch-dates-revealed.html

 

 

 

Xbox All Access will cost $24.99 per month for the Xbox Series S, and $34.99 per month for the Xbox Series X.

This service will not be available in South Africa this year, but Microsoft said more countries will get access to the service in 2021.

 

 

At those prices they can shove it where the sun don't shine.

[HdB]

At those prices they can shove it where the sun don't shine.

PS5 prices, also at "Yeah nah!" level:

https://mybroadband.co.za/news/gaming/367739-playstation-5-south-african-pricing-revealed.html

 

With the games I've been playing recently (Thimbleweed Park, Streets of Rogue), my Radeon R390 will be good enough for a long time to come. Can't even remember where I left of with Borderlands 3. So spending this much on a console makes no sense for me currently

[Steven Knoetze (sk27)]

Using a straight currency conversion, that's a 45-55% markup. As if the price wasn't bad enough in dollars......

Factor in games starting at R1000, with bigger titles at +R1200.

[Amberdrake]

I paid R2k for my Xbox 360....... and R200 for HDD at second hand store.... at those prices for new consoles, im glad I opted for a gaming laptop instead.

[Skubarra]

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Using a straight currency conversion, that's a 45-55% markup. As if the price wasn't bad enough in dollars......

Factor in games starting at R1000, with bigger titles at +R1200.

 

Unfortunately I am too poor to have cycling AND gaming for hobbies. (never mind the time)

 

So I am quite happy to be about 5 years behind the curve and stick with older games and 2nd hand previous generation consoles.

 

Simply no way I'm paying those prices to get my gaming fix.

[popcorn_skollie]

I've splurged a bit on a new build. 3600xt on the B450 platform. I've struggled to decide between opting for b550 or x570 instead but the deal was too good to pass up on. Considering things like pcie4 and forward compatibility with the new upcoming Ryzen processors. I realized that this build will still be so far ahead of what I have now that the cost to performance gains make sense to stick with b450. Pcie4 is still an option with bios updates and if I ever want to upgrade the cpu in the next few years. And I could probably get a better deal on current gen Ryzen 7 or 9 upgrade as apposed to trying to go up an entire generation. Even then the performance gains per rand will be better value. This will be my first AMD platform in over a decade. I will also have nvme storage which is new to me and light years faster than sata ssd I have now. Now I wait patiently for big navi and 3rd party benches of partner cards between team red and team green before I decide on a new gpu. Exciting times ahead. 

 

Parts so far

 

Gigabyte B450 Aorus Elite mobo

paired with a Ryzen 5 3600xt processer. 

 

 

I got this cooler new on carbonite. Sticking with air for now. With no real intention of moving to water if I'm honest. I think I'm over it. This cooler in particular is actually intended for the Ryzen 7 processors. Which means that its capabale of a higher tdp that the Ryzen 5 I will slap it onto. Giving me more thermal headroom for a bit of OC should I decide to go that route.

 

 

The fastest ram I've ever owned in both latency and frequency. With OC headroom to boot as well. 

The nice thing about this kit is that despite purchasing 2x8gb dims. It comes with with 2 additional dummy dims to populate the empty slots. Which is a nice aesthetic touch for a small price.

 

 

 

For the case I went with Corsair's Carbide 275R. Paired with their CS850w modular psu.

More than enough power to keep things going even if I upgrade in time to come.

 

I've also settled on 2 ssd's for storage. 1tb Klevv nvme and 1tb Hikvision sata ssd. I'll think about additional hdd storage later. 

 

The highlight of the build remains. But lets see what these new cards do before I decide

[Steven Knoetze (sk27)]

I've splurged a bit on a new build. 3600xt on the B450 platform. I've struggled to decide between opting for b550 or x570 instead but the deal was too good to pass up on. Considering things like pcie4 and forward compatibility with the new upcoming Ryzen processors. I realized that this build will still be so far ahead of what I have now that the cost to performance gains make sense to stick with b450. Pcie4 is still an option with bios updates and if I ever want to upgrade the cpu in the next few years. And I could probably get a better deal on current gen Ryzen 7 or 9 upgrade as apposed to trying to go up an entire generation. Even then the performance gains per rand will be better value. This will be my first AMD platform in over a decade. I will also have nvme storage which is new to me and light years faster than sata ssd I have now. Now I wait patiently for big navi and 3rd party benches of partner cards between team red and team green before I decide on a new gpu. Exciting times ahead. 

 

Parts so far

 

Gigabyte B450 Aorus Elite mobo

paired with a Ryzen 5 3600xt processer. 

 

 

I got this cooler new on carbonite. Sticking with air for now. With no real intention of moving to water if I'm honest. I think I'm over it. This cooler in particular is actually intended for the Ryzen 7 processors. Which means that its capabale of a higher tdp that the Ryzen 5 I will slap it onto. Giving me more thermal headroom for a bit of OC should I decide to go that route.

 

 

The fastest ram I've ever owned in both latency and frequency. With OC headroom to boot as well. 

The nice thing about this kit is that despite purchasing 2x8gb dims. It comes with with 2 additional dummy dims to populate the empty slots. Which is a nice aesthetic touch for a small price.

 

 

 

For the case I went with Corsair's Carbide 275R. Paired with their CS850w modular psu.

More than enough power to keep things going even if I upgrade in time to come.

 

I've also settled on 2 ssd's for storage. 1tb Klevv nvme and 1tb Hikvision sata ssd. I'll think about additional hdd storage later. 

 

The highlight of the build re

 

As someone who was seriously looking at the PS5 but is now disillusioned by the price of the console and games, what would that setup cost?

 

[Jase619]

As someone who was seriously looking at the PS5 but is now disillusioned by the price of the console and games, what would that setup cost?

 

Prepare to be disillusioned more. . . .

[Jase619]

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Using a straight currency conversion, that's a 45-55% markup. As if the price wasn't bad enough in dollars......

Factor in games starting at R1000, with bigger titles at +R1200.

 

Yeah. so using a proper calculation comes at about 20% markup, give or take with some liberal allowances. Take that on the markup that they are charging on the new Nvidia cards and it doesn't look too bad

[Fruity]

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Using a straight currency conversion, that's a 45-55% markup. As if the price wasn't bad enough in dollars......

Factor in games starting at R1000, with bigger titles at +R1200.

Yip and here's the next gen Xbox stable.

 

If the Xbox Series S wasn't all digital then I would probably consider getting one of those. No way I would spend 12k on a console.

[Fruity]

PS5 prices, also at "Yeah nah!" level:

https://mybroadband.co.za/news/gaming/367739-playstation-5-south-african-pricing-revealed.html

 

With the games I've been playing recently (Thimbleweed Park, Streets of Rogue), my Radeon R390 will be good enough for a long time to come. Can't even remember where I left of with Borderlands 3. So spending this much on a console makes no sense for me currently

Thimbleweed Park - I've seen that game mentioned a few times in one of the Monkey Island groups on FB [emoji106]

[marko35s]

At those prices they can shove it where the sun don't shine.

Even though that includes the gamepass with hundreds of games available within that price?

[popcorn_skollie]

As someone who was seriously looking at the PS5 but is now disillusioned by the price of the console and games, what would that setup cost?

 

 

I pulled some strings with old friends in the local distribution supply chain. After a few months of cherry picking parts I came up just short of 15k. The psu which is valued at around 2k is excluded because I just happened to have an old sealed unit from a previous rma. The case was all I overpaid for by a couple hundred. Because I was fussy. So I think its fair to say you're looking at around 18-20k retail for the stuff above. Then I also have to buy a gpu. Which I expect will set me back between 10-15. When all is said and done. Maybe 25-30k. At which point I'll try and recover some of the expenses by flogging my old parts on carb. Conservatively I should get back roughly 8k for my old machine. 

 

The worst part is once this build is done. My existing monitor wont be able to take advantage of all the horses under the hood. I have a 75hz ultrawide. For me to actually benefit from all the frames the build will be able to render I'm looking at spending at least another 5-7k for a high refresh rate display.

But I will be able to cap frames in the meantime to keep things smooth until I'm able to afford it.

I've always been in the habit of staggering upgrades over time. I can't afford to drop all that money in one go. But if I'm smart and patient. It will eventually pay off.

[Steven Knoetze (sk27)]

I pulled some strings with old friends in the local distribution supply chain. After a few months of cherry picking parts I came up just short of 15k. The psu which is valued at around 2k is excluded because I just happened to have an old sealed unit from a previous rma. The case was all I overpaid for by a couple hundred. Because I was fussy. So I think its fair to say you're looking at around 18-20k retail for the stuff above. Then I also have to buy a gpu. Which I expect will set me back between 10-15. When all is said and done. Maybe 25-30k. At which point I'll try and recover some of the expenses by flogging my old parts on carb. Conservatively I should get back roughly 8k for my old machine. 

 

The worst part is once this build is done. My existing monitor wont be able to take advantage of all the horses under the hood. I have a 75hz ultrawide. For me to actually benefit from all the frames the build will be able to render I'm looking at spending at least another 5-7k for a high refresh rate display.

But I will be able to cap frames in the meantime to keep things smooth until I'm able to afford it.

I've always been in the habit of staggering upgrades over time. I can't afford to drop all that money in one go. But if I'm smart and patient. It will eventually pay off.

 

The thing is from there onwards you are looking at R400 a game, on average.

The PC also is able to do more than you can do with a PS.

Also, you could drop slightly in spec and still be able to play most modern games I imagine.

 

My mark-up percentages were a bit squiff I see but still, R12k for a console is a bit steep especially given the game costs.