BrennonClevely Posted August 7, 2013 Share I'm currently waiting for my pyga frame but am starting to wonder if the vipa isn't another option? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Fastbastard Mayhem Posted August 7, 2013 Share Totally different bike. One is a pure race machine the other is a pure trail machine that can punch in both xc and marathon. Stay pyga! Far more versatile bike. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thug Posted August 7, 2013 Share I fully agree with the Captain. Pyga all the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryanpmb Posted August 7, 2013 Share What cpt said. Two different bikes. Depends what you're planning on doing with them. The fact that you trying to compare such different bikes leads me to believe that you're not really an avid racing snake (else you'd know the difference) so, stick with the PYGA. It'll serve you well. I've ridden XCO courses, XC (classics), marathons, stage races and Enduros with mine. Great bike. BrennonClevely and M L 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cav' Posted August 7, 2013 Share Take the one You like most. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maximis Posted August 8, 2013 Share Pyga Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awesme Posted August 8, 2013 Share I'm going to repeat what Ryan said, very different bikes, designed for totally different problems (read fun adventures). The Pyga will play allot better in both the Trail, and XC/XCO/Marathon than the VIPA will. VIPA if you looking for a pure race weapon. Where you going to use the bike, is the question you want to ask first. G What cpt said. Two different bikes. Depends what you're planning on doing with them. The fact that you trying to compare such different bikes leads me to believe that you're not really an avid racing snake (else you'd know the difference) so, stick with the PYGA. It'll serve you well. I've ridden XCO courses, XC (classics), marathons, stage races and Enduros with mine. Great bike. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vetseun Posted August 8, 2013 Share Totally different bike. One is a pure race machine the other is a pure trail machine that can punch in both xc and marathon. Stay pyga! Far more versatile bike.As usual, sound advice from a man who knows his shite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Izak Posted August 8, 2013 Share Agree with armpies, but if it was me and we had to go purely on how it makes me feel when I see a pic of it....VaaaaaaaaIPA!!! Personal pref and opinion as always Steven Knoetze (sk27) and Captain Fastbastard Mayhem 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevief Posted August 8, 2013 Share Get a Giant 26er Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Fastbastard Mayhem Posted August 8, 2013 Share Get a Giant 26er Mine is NOT for sale. Edited August 8, 2013 by cpt armpies mayhem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Fastbastard Mayhem Posted August 8, 2013 Share Agree with armpies, but if it was me and we had to go purely on how it makes me feel when I see a pic of it....VaaaaaaaaIPA!!! Personal pref and opinion as always Hmmmm. Appreciate that, but I have to disagree. The pyga is one sexy beast. Plus the vipa's head tube looks as its been deformed. But I suspect that's because I have an aversion to any bike with a ht angle of more than 69 degrees. Izak 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D Vader Posted August 8, 2013 Share Newer trend is to increase headtube angle and shorten chainstay, Good or bad? I think it is a very good idea.So VIPA would be my choice. Fast up = good. I do think the Pyga is great, just depends on application and personal choice. Izak 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Fastbastard Mayhem Posted August 8, 2013 Share Newer trend is to increase headtube angle and shorten chainstay, Good or bad? I think it is a very good idea.So VIPA would be my choice. Fast up = good. I do think the Pyga is great, just depends on application and personal choice. Nope. Newer trend is to DECREASE head tube angle and chain stay length. Decrease as on go to lower numbers. You see a lot more xc bikes coming out at 68/69 degrees whereas before they were solidly around the 71/72 mark. Robodog, Ryanpmb and D Vader 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wil6 Posted August 8, 2013 Share That Momson sure is a good looking bike. Anyone know the retail price? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryanpmb Posted August 8, 2013 Share Newer trend is to increase headtube angle and shorten chainstay, Good or bad? I think it is a very good idea.So VIPA would be my choice. Fast up = good. I do think the Pyga is great, just depends on application and personal choice.Um. Yeah. This isn't right... Trend is to decrease, giving slacker angles... ViPa is a race thoroughbred - with a headtube angle of 71. Steep like it should be for the bike it is... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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