"No name" wheel build

[Simonpurdon]

Hi guys,

 

Building a new bike and need advice on some new wheels.

 

I want some fairly strong wheels on par with something like the Stan's Arch Ex or the Spank Oozy trail wheels but want to try avoid the price tag that comes with the "brand" of these ones.

 

Anyone have any advice on great quality, small brand, wheels and/or hubs for 650B that will hold up to some hard trail riding?

 

Any help at all would be great,

Cheers!

[rouxtjie]

Rims are the cheap part in wheels...don't skimp. Get the stan's arch rims if you after strength.

 

Hubs...Hope Pro's are very hardy hubs and don't break the bank.

 

Spokes...dont be a weight weenie.

 

Goedkoop is duurkoop

[Kranky]

American Classic Terrain. R3,595 from EvoBikes: http://www.evobikes....c-wheelset.html

 

Even cheaper, Alex Rims now make a wide rim that is almost half the price of the mentioned brands. You'd still have to arrange hubs, spokes and building. I know one person who rides them and says that they are semi-decent.

 

For me, the wheelset is the most important component of a bike. You'd do well not to cut corners here

Edited May 27, 2014 by Nick.

[shaper]

take a look at what hubber Kiwi has http://www.rapide.co.za/c339/Wheel-Building.aspx#.U4RuO_mSx2E

 

Prices will be competitive

[Kranky]

take a look at what hubber Kiwi has http://www.rapide.co...px#.U4RuO_mSx2E

 

Prices will be competitive

 

Indeed. R2,990 wheelset here: http://www.rapide.co...b-Wheelset.aspx

http://www.rapide.co.za/images/products/Rapide%20R27%20and%20R29/Rapide-R27-Wheelset.jpg

Edited May 27, 2014 by Nick.

[Simonpurdon]

take a look at what hubber Kiwi has http://www.rapide.co...px#.U4RuO_mSx2E

 

Prices will be competitive

 

Has anyone heard or experienced these http://www.rapide.co.za/pRAPIDE%20R27%20650B%20WHEELSET/Rapide-R27-650b-Wheelset.aspx#.U4RvTpSSxss ?

 

Strength wise how do they stand up and what are the hubs like?

 

VERY competitive price!

 

Rims are the cheap part in wheels...don't skimp. Get the stan's arch rims if you after strength.

 

Hubs...Hope Pro's are very hardy hubs and don't break the bank.

 

Spokes...dont be a weight weenie.

 

Goedkoop is duurkoop

 

Any spokes you recommend?

 

American Classic Terrain. R3,595 from EvoBikes: http://www.evobikes....c-wheelset.html

 

Even cheaper, Alex Rims now make a wide rim that is almost half the price of the mentioned brands. You'd still have to arrange hubs, spokes and building. I know one person who rides them and says that they are semi-decent.

 

For me, the wheelset is the most important component of a bike. You'd do well not to cut corners here. Spank or WTB rims on Hope hubs would be my choice.

 

I've bent one of those Alex rims before with the wide outer radius, wasn't even during an accident or hectic riding.

[Simonpurdon]

Indeed. R2,990 wheelset here: http://www.rapide.co...b-Wheelset.aspx

http://www.rapide.co.za/images/products/Rapide%20R27%20and%20R29/Rapide-R27-Wheelset.jpg

 

Any idea of the strength of these?

Hub durability?

[braailegend]

Dont buy cheap wheels or try to compensate when buying wheels for trail/hard riding... part of bike that takes the most punishment

 

 

Spanks are awesome, only rims I ride, except for my Halo Combat's

 

dont have experience with Stans

 

EDIT: A wheelset which will be able to take punishment start at around R4.5k for 26", so you might be looking at a bit more.

Edited May 27, 2014 by braailegend

[Kranky]

Any idea of the strength of these?

Hub durability?

 

Sorry, no idea. I'm just speculating on all this stuff. I've only ever seriously ridden Stan's, Spank and Hope parts with Sapim spokes.

[V12man]

You can have any 2 of:

 

Cheap

Light

Strong

 

But you can only have 2 of those....

[Simonpurdon]

You can have any 2 of:

 

Cheap

Light

Strong

 

But you can only have 2 of those....

 

Definitely going for cheap and strong. Extra weight I can afford, I'm young so a few grams here and there just means I have to get fitter

[V12man]

Definitely going for cheap and strong. Extra weight I can afford, I'm young so a few grams here and there just means I have to get fitter

 

Just build a set of ZTR Flow EX's on Hope hubs - will cost a tad more than cheap, but will outlast and out perform them in every way - Much cheaper than medical expenses.... a separated AC joint is worth at least 3 sets of wheels... just in cash......

 

http://www.notubes.com/ZTR-Rims-C18.aspx

[shaper]

Any idea of the strength of these?

Hub durability?

 

PM Kiwi and chat to him to find out more https://www.bikehub.co.za/forum/user/1841-kiwi/

 

I have no experience with them, but do know that what he sells is generally of durable quality

 

As everybody says, you want tried and tested, Stans rims, hope hubs.. but they come at a price!

[Simonpurdon]

Just build a set of ZTR Flow EX's on Hope hubs - will cost a tad more than cheap, but will outlast and out perform them in every way - Much cheaper than medical expenses.... a separated AC joint is worth at least 3 sets of wheels... just in cash......

 

http://www.notubes.c...R-Rims-C18.aspx

 

Do you not think the Arch EX's are strong enough? I'll be using them on a PYGA One Twenty with 140 up front. I'm roughly 84kg but ride pretty fast, if I do say so myself .

 

Also, 28 hole or 32?

 

Also also, do you recommend any spokes with that combo?

 

Thanks for the advice!

[no calves]

I have hope hubs laced to spank vomax23 rims. Man oh man those babies are nice!!!!

[V12man]

Do you not think the Arch EX's are strong enough? I'll be using them on a PYGA One Twenty with 140 up front. I'm roughly 84kg but ride pretty fast, if I do say so myself .

 

Also, 28 hole or 32?

 

Also also, do you recommend any spokes with that combo?

 

Thanks for the advice!

 

32 for sure - any quality 2mm spoke should do - keep them in silver, black always looks bad after a month or so - AND use BRASS nipples only - aluminium ones corrode.

 

Flow EX for sure on an all mountain type 650B bike - there is no cost penalty to using the flows over the Arch, but they are stronger and wider, which is good for tyre profile on the wheel.

 

Weight on a bike ONLY makes a difference on uphills - flats and down hills there is practically no penalty to speak of by going heavier.