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I had a mid 90's TZR 3MA (think it was a grey import) and even though it was an amazing little machine, I did not enjoy it as much as any one of my LC's or YPVS. 

Yeah, the 3MA was a good looking, but you would need to go 3XV/VJ22/MC28... but those push R100k in good condition too these days.

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Retro is big business as the average biker ages....just look at the plethora of retro models and each manufacturer caters to it.

 

Look at the Katana and the new Vstrom as an example, harks of the DR Big and the lil French man in the Dakar races.

 

These kits for the XSR are superb I reckon.

 

Yamaha should build new 2 smokes, the technology is there to get them to burn as cleanly as possible. The market is the problem in that they are unlikely to sell in large numbers.

 

It is already being done.

Price is the big problem, anything special costs plenty moolah.

https://www.motorcyclenews.com/news/new-bikes/vins-duecinquanta-/

 

Andy, you have a fair bit of knowledge about Yamaha's.

Would a 350LC / R3 swop be possible or even feasible? 

 

Not that I will be able to do it / afford it, but I quite like the idea of a "modern" stroker.

 

Definitely doable and been done.

Here is one, questionable bodykit IMO. Would've done a Moto2 replica but then again those are common:

https://www.facebook.com/Wickedatv/posts/2662998800411423?comment_id=2663150763729560&comment_tracking=%7B%22tn%22%3A%22R%22%7D

 

There is guy up in Jhb who built a banshee motor into a Duke 390.

Also get kits to build banshee motors into Cagiva Mito 125, standard mod kit off the shelf.

https://www.facebook.com/Mito350tk/

Look at the above link at your own peril........

 

You should also follow Sidz in Bloemfontein, some seriously special banshee and banshee engined builds. He seems to be the banshee whisperer in SA at the moment........

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If money was no object, I would definitely go the 350/R3 combo, with a fully built bigbore motor. There is kits from the States that takes them to over 100bhp. Not sure of reliability, but that will be a real little hooligan machine. 

 

I can only dream, though. (got a couple of crazy ideas like this swirling around in my head)

 

Saw a 3xv the other day with a 535cc kit, made 135hp at the rear wheel and apparently fairly reliable. Setup is key.

Full carbon bodykit, no exspense spared kind of build.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/paul_666/6339414403

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Running the single disc upfront still?

 

I believe he was yes. Might have upgraded the lines and disc probably. Was an expensive mistake but the bike is now resplendid in its new Red Bull KTMesque colour scheme.

Its like the guys who take a 1300 citi golf and stick a turbo'ed 2.0L motor in them. Stock suspension, stock brakes and usually ends in tears........

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There is a pretty big 2 stroke community in SA.

One of the guys in Cpt is busy building a RZ500, running full R1 Big Bang running gear with a fettled motor.

These are a few other local bikes:

Kevin's Mito 350 currently:

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R1Z, currently for sale in Jhb @ R100k

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Friend in EL's 3xv, quite like the Panigale-like tank but he has a standard tank for it.

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Pic from a Cpt group ride some time ago, also monthly Jhb rides.

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I believe he was yes. Might have upgraded the lines and disc probably. Was an expensive mistake but the bike is now resplendid in its new Red Bull KTMesque colour scheme.

Its like the guys who take a 1300 citi golf and stick a turbo'ed 2.0L motor in them. Stock suspension, stock brakes and usually ends in tears........

Oh no... a Mito in KTM colours... I blame Brad!!!

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It is already being done.

Price is the big problem, anything special costs plenty moolah.

https://www.motorcyclenews.com/news/new-bikes/vins-duecinquanta-/

 

 

Definitely doable and been done.

Here is one, questionable bodykit IMO. Would've done a Moto2 replica but then again those are common:

https://www.facebook.com/Wickedatv/posts/2662998800411423?comment_id=2663150763729560&comment_tracking=%7B%22tn%22%3A%22R%22%7D

 

There is guy up in Jhb who built a banshee motor into a Duke 390.

Also get kits to build banshee motors into Cagiva Mito 125, standard mod kit off the shelf.

https://www.facebook.com/Mito350tk/

Look at the above link at your own peril........

 

You should also follow Sidz in Bloemfontein, some seriously special banshee and banshee engined builds. He seems to be the banshee whisperer in SA at the moment........

That Vins is a thing of absolute beauty.

 

I have to ask price meaning I can’t afford it. ????????

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Another hairbrained idea I have is to marry two 350LC motors to make an inline 4 cylinder 700cc 'stroker, and put that into a fairly modern chassis. With today's technology, that should be do able. 

 

I know the motor has been done before in England, think the chap custom build the frame, as he was / is a custom bike builder.

 

As you can see, I'm a bit of a 2 stroke nutter, only having owned 2 four stroke bikes in my life, my first bike, a 60's model Honda SS50 and then an 80's Yammy Eleven Special I custom build from different bikes, bits and bobs I gathered over a two year period.

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Another hairbrained idea I have is to marry two 350LC motors to make an inline 4 cylinder 700cc 'stroker, and put that into a fairly modern chassis. With today's technology, that should be do able. 

 

I know the motor has been done before in England, think the chap custom build the frame, as he was / is a custom bike builder.

 

As you can see, I'm a bit of a 2 stroke nutter, only having owned 2 four stroke bikes in my life, my first bike, a 60's model Honda SS50 and then an 80's Yammy Eleven Special I custom build from different bikes, bits and bobs I gathered over a two year period.

Probably just be cheaper to buy a v-Due or even a Sutter, definitely a lot less "hassle" :D

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Another hairbrained idea I have is to marry two 350LC motors to make an inline 4 cylinder 700cc 'stroker, and put that into a fairly modern chassis. With today's technology, that should be do able. 

 

I know the motor has been done before in England, think the chap custom build the frame, as he was / is a custom bike builder.

 

As you can see, I'm a bit of a 2 stroke nutter, only having owned 2 four stroke bikes in my life, my first bike, a 60's model Honda SS50 and then an 80's Yammy Eleven Special I custom build from different bikes, bits and bobs I gathered over a two year period.

 

Seen 2 RD700 builds from the UK. I suppose if you can do it yourself it might be fun but if paying, no ways.

Custom cases, custom crank, etc, etc......

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Probably just be cheaper to buy a v-Due or even a Sutter, definitely a lot less "hassle" :D

 

Friend I cycle with funnily enough, sold his V-due last year to a collector in the states for I believe over R300k............. Had about 10km on it and was the better, earlier carb model. Trying to fuel inject the V-due is what sunk the company back in the day.

The Suter I believe starts at over R600k and thats without taxes and shipping.

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