Is motorcycling allowed?

[Hairy]

10 hours ago, Andymann said:

The VMC does a calendar every year where they ask members to sponsor a page and in return you get a picture of your bike on a month.  I had pics taken and last year I thought what the hell let me submit to Bikebound

https://www.bikebound.com/2024/01/10/velocette-scrambler/

Phenomenal

And what a legend

[IceCreamMan]

2 minutes ago, Hairy said:

is this due to the 1300's being on the market?

Yes. No one is going to buy an older model unless it’s deeply discounted. The new one marginally more expensive. Same with the 850 gs range. 

[Hairy]

2 minutes ago, IceCreamMan said:

Yes. No one is going to buy an older model unless it’s deeply discounted. The new one marginally more expensive. Same with the 850 gs range. 

I went to test a 2011 GSA 1200 today.

Mileage is high at 71K
Servicing is on point with the dealer all the way through

General condition is really good. 

I found a custom made alum bracket with a GoPro mount on it .. turns out the guy meant to be. well know in motorcycling circles and may have a YT channel.....ring a bell for anyone 

Price is a little on the steep side at R110k, this includes the alum top box and paniers, a set of shorty levers that feel strange to use and a steering damper.

I could only test the bike up and down the road. This was enough to determine that the bike does not dip and dive like the other 2011 that I tried out over the weekend. This bike was certainly also a bit nippier.

Took the seat off and the bike was nice and clean with the cables all neat and tidy the one from the weekend looked like a mouse nest RE the wiring.

Dealer is going to see what he can do RE the price, but R110K for a 71,000km bike is a bit heavy for me to accept.

[IceCreamMan]

15 minutes ago, Hairy said:

I went to test a 2011 GSA 1200 today.

Mileage is high at 71K
Servicing is on point with the dealer all the way through

General condition is really good. 

I found a custom made alum bracket with a GoPro mount on it .. turns out the guy meant to be. well know in motorcycling circles and may have a YT channel.....ring a bell for anyone 

Price is a little on the steep side at R110k, this includes the alum top box and paniers, a set of shorty levers that feel strange to use and a steering damper.

I could only test the bike up and down the road. This was enough to determine that the bike does not dip and dive like the other 2011 that I tried out over the weekend. This bike was certainly also a bit nippier.

Took the seat off and the bike was nice and clean with the cables all neat and tidy the one from the weekend looked like a mouse nest RE the wiring.

Dealer is going to see what he can do RE the price, but R110K for a 71,000km bike is a bit heavy for me to accept.

Those panniers/top box are hellishly expensive so factor that into it too. And it’s a GSA.
 

I don’t have any knowledge of ZA bike prices but 71000 kms is not a train smash. These things run hundreds of thousands kms.  
 

edit. Just ran a quick search here. 110grand in ZA is cheaper than what they sell for here all things being equal. The value placed on the GS  range is incredible. 

Edited January 23 by IceCreamMan

[Hairy]

16 minutes ago, IceCreamMan said:

Those panniers/top box are hellishly expensive so factor that into it too. And it’s a GSA.
 

I don’t have any knowledge of ZA bike prices but 71000 kms is not a train smash. These things run hundreds of thousands kms.  
 

edit. Just ran a quick search here. 110grand in ZA is cheaper than what they sell for here all things being equal. The value placed on the GS  range is incredible. 

Still going to push them on price

[IceCreamMan]

See attached article regarding BMW sales. GS 1300 has already sold 4500 units here. That means 4500 trade in GS12/1250 and/or private sales. 
 

does wonders for the buyers. 
 

and yeah, not all new bikes will be current GS owners but I reckon a high percentage will be

[sawystertrance]

Hairy,

Have you considered putting up a "Wanted" advert on Wild Dogs in the Buy and sell section? There may be somebody there thinking of selling but not yet sure and knowing you're looking may convince them to sell.

[Hairy]

33 minutes ago, sawystertrance said:

Hairy,

Have you considered putting up a "Wanted" advert on Wild Dogs in the Buy and sell section? There may be somebody there thinking of selling but not yet sure and knowing you're looking may convince them to sell.

Not just yet, but I have been speaking to people I know, one of whom noted that he had a 2012 GSA that he loved and cared for from birth, then decided he wanted to get a KTM Adv and sold the GSA to his brother in law, who in turn added this to his vast collection of bikes and since then the bike has seen limited mileage.

He estimates it to be at 44K.

He reached out to him yesterday to see if he may be interested in selling the bike ... so that is a good wait and see idea.

Other than finding a nice oil/air cooled bike, I may take the approach of waiting a little longer and saving up a bit more to get a 2016 and younger liquid cooled GSA .... with the idea that the market would see more of them coming out in a few months, and hopefully a good few with low mileage that have been garage queens that gets parked outside the local coffee shop on Sunday mornings.

So I am aggressively browsing and learning at the same time, if the right bike pops up, then great, if I wait a bit for the right bike then so be it. A bit more expensive right bike right now, may mean me having to see the YT Jef. to bridge the gap (I do not like financing things, so cash in hand is the way to go for me).

[sawystertrance]

" with the idea that the market would see more of them coming out in a few months, and hopefully a good few with low mileage that have been garage queens that gets parked outside the local coffee shop on Sunday mornings.".

Thw owners of these bike ar the ones from whom I was thinking that the ad may tease out a reaction.

What's a YT Jef?

[Hairy]

15 minutes ago, sawystertrance said:

" with the idea that the market would see more of them coming out in a few months, and hopefully a good few with low mileage that have been garage queens that gets parked outside the local coffee shop on Sunday mornings.".

Thw owners of these bike ar the ones from whom I was thinking that the ad may tease out a reaction.

What's a YT Jef?

my 2018 YT Jeffsy AL size large ... bought her 2019 (Ex. demo) did a bit of riding, had issues with the dropper and the cassette where she sat for a while, then got a new e-13 cassette with chain and a new RS dropper post, our friend covid came along and then I may have taken her off road maybe twice with a short roadie ride or two around the block type of riding.

I am not using her, and prob. won't be using her anytime soon.

Pending what bike I look at, I may be able to also just try and sell the frame with crankset then carry over the fork and drive train to my STR.

[sawystertrance]

Haha. I have been out of cycling for so long, I thought it referred to YouTube, even though I knew of YT bikes..

I pretty much log on here for this thread only.

[IceCreamMan]

1 hour ago, Hairy said:

Not just yet, but I have been speaking to people I know, one of whom noted that he had a 2012 GSA that he loved and cared for from birth, then decided he wanted to get a KTM Adv and sold the GSA to his brother in law, who in turn added this to his vast collection of bikes and since then the bike has seen limited mileage.

He estimates it to be at 44K.

He reached out to him yesterday to see if he may be interested in selling the bike ... so that is a good wait and see idea.

Other than finding a nice oil/air cooled bike, I may take the approach of waiting a little longer and saving up a bit more to get a 2016 and younger liquid cooled GSA .... with the idea that the market would see more of them coming out in a few months, and hopefully a good few with low mileage that have been garage queens that gets parked outside the local coffee shop on Sunday mornings.

So I am aggressively browsing and learning at the same time, if the right bike pops up, then great, if I wait a bit for the right bike then so be it. A bit more expensive right bike right now, may mean me having to see the YT Jef. to bridge the gap (I do not like financing things, so cash in hand is the way to go for me).

SeconD hand Buyers market at the minute in the BMW GS range given the new models. 

[Hairy]

Sooo ... what are your thoughts on a newish BMW that was written off by insurance, then fixed up and being sold again?

 

[sawystertrance]

Expends on the reason for its write-off. If an accident then you'd better be sure it's all straight and not prone to wandering, especially at speed. If expensive engine damage then as long as it's been replaced all should be well. What was the reason for the write-off?

[Hairy]

5 minutes ago, sawystertrance said:

Expends on the reason for its write-off. If an accident then you'd better be sure it's all straight and not prone to wandering, especially at speed. If expensive engine damage then as long as it's been replaced all should be well. What was the reason for the write-off?

The bike is with We Buy Cars, and the agent said he would try and find all this information for me.

In the background though, the bike has a sticker from where I assume it was purchased, and I have also sent them an email asking if they have any information and sent them the VIN no. to check if they are willing to assist.

[Hairy]