mazambaan Posted January 23 Share 20 hours ago, Hairy said: He said the bike turns in very suddenly where he (Had a GS before) found the GS to handle better a slower speeds on the trail ... so I understood it. Loves his bike though, and it sounds like he takes her on many a romantic dirt adventure. EDIT: The other factor in my mind is that there are a gazillion GS bikes out on the trails, with the service centers and spares to sustain this mass of vehicles vs far less numbers of ST bikes. Following the hitches to get spares for the HD, my logic leans towards a simpler life with the GS from a maintenance and accessories point of view. and if you have the urge to ride some gravel you can do it very comfortably. "Comfortable" is what I hear a lot about the GS and probably the reason a good number of Iron Butt riders choose it for long distances. Hairy and RoddieJ 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hairy Posted January 23 Share Looking to test this bike out today or tomorrow. https://www.gsbiketraders.co.za/bikes/arriving-soon-2011-bmw-gsa-1200,-top-box-and-panniers I have been sent a full set of good pics, and she looks to be in good condition and is meant to have a full BMW service record....given the mileage that would be key. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hairy Posted January 23 Share I know we discussed ST's the other day, but this looks decent https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/735812605154760/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andymann Posted January 23 Share I was part of the S10 test team when we were busy evaluating it before the SA launch. We had a KTM, a Triumph, a GS and the S10. This is what we found - The KTM was the best off-road - like a big MX bike but it wasn't great on-road The GS was excellent as a big Adventure tourer but wasn't as good as the KTM off road. The S10 was kind of in-between - it was better than the GS off-road, but not as good as the KTM, but not as good as the GS on-road but way better than the KTM. The problem was the Triumph which was just a better all-rounder than everything everywhere - luckily in 2010 Triumphs were not that popular. The Japanese could not understand why South Africans would want to take an S10 on anything other than maybe a dirt road - and even that was a shock for them! I wouldn't completely ignore an S10 - they are incredibly reliable so you won't have issues and they can be had now for good money - but I wouldn't want to take one too far off a gravel road! Just my 5c! IceCreamMan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andymann Posted January 23 Share Having said that - if you can take a TW200 across 5 miles of hell you can probably take anything! Hairy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hairy Posted January 23 Share 12 minutes ago, Andymann said: Having said that - if you can take a TW200 across 5 miles of hell you can probably take anything! I like the TW200 Did my k53 on one .... they just bloody expensive second hand for what you are getting ... but should be a blast to play with in the bush Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hairy Posted January 23 Share 14 minutes ago, Andymann said: I was part of the S10 test team when we were busy evaluating it before the SA launch. We had a KTM, a Triumph, a GS and the S10. This is what we found - The KTM was the best off-road - like a big MX bike but it wasn't great on-road The GS was excellent as a big Adventure tourer but wasn't as good as the KTM off road. The S10 was kind of in-between - it was better than the GS off-road, but not as good as the KTM, but not as good as the GS on-road but way better than the KTM. The problem was the Triumph which was just a better all-rounder than everything everywhere - luckily in 2010 Triumphs were not that popular. The Japanese could not understand why South Africans would want to take an S10 on anything other than maybe a dirt road - and even that was a shock for them! I wouldn't completely ignore an S10 - they are incredibly reliable so you won't have issues and they can be had now for good money - but I wouldn't want to take one too far off a gravel road! Just my 5c! Thanks ... I am more confused now sawystertrance 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andymann Posted January 23 Share 2 minutes ago, Hairy said: I like the TW200 Did my k53 on one .... they just bloody expensive second hand for what you are getting ... but should be a blast to play with in the bush Actually the AG200 is way better - but it has a stigma attached that it's a farm bike. Same engine, same dodgy suspension but just a much better package Hairy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hairy Posted January 23 Share 14 minutes ago, Andymann said: Actually the AG200 is way better - but it has a stigma attached that it's a farm bike. Same engine, same dodgy suspension but just a much better package interesting and I am sure more maneuverable with the narrower tyres but then the xt250 would be more capable again? Edited January 23 by Hairy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andymann Posted January 23 Share 3 minutes ago, Hairy said: interesting and I am sure more maneuverable with the narrower tyres but then the xt250 would be more capable again? You cant carry your dog on an XT250..... Hairy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hairy Posted January 23 Share a moral dilemma I am sitting with is, will little kids and their mothers still smile and wave at me if I am NOT on a Harley RoddieJ, Andymann and WaynejG 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andymann Posted January 23 Share I came across a Facebook memory a while back when I still had my Triumph Bonneville where I was debating the fact that when driving past the local University on the Triumph, there was a very fine line separating Cool Guy riding a retro bike and Old guy riding past on some old bike.... Sadly I think on that day I was the latter RoddieJ and IceCreamMan 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andymann Posted January 23 Share The VMC does a calendar every year where they ask members to sponsor a page and in return you get a picture of your bike on a month. I had pics taken and last year I thought what the hell let me submit to Bikebound https://www.bikebound.com/2024/01/10/velocette-scrambler/ WaynejG, Stoffel76, Hairy and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sawystertrance Posted January 23 Share Beaut project Andy and well-deserved recognition in the article. Chapeau to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IceCreamMan Posted January 23 Share Dealers offering the 850gs and 850gs adv at good prices here now. Same with 1250 gs range. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hairy Posted January 23 Share 7 hours ago, IceCreamMan said: Dealers offering the 850gs and 850gs adv at good prices here now. Same with 1250 gs range. is this due to the 1300's being on the market? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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