Slowbee Posted May 27, 2015 Posted May 27, 2015 slowbee - how can you move a reply from one thread to another thread - this is directly related to a feedback - and thus should be in the feedback thread...by moving it you have caused confusion and broken continuitysorry stretch - was wanting to keep the feedback thread to a 5 point pro and con only, and not let it generate into a discussion, which is what this thread is intended for, discussion.
davetapson Posted June 2, 2015 Posted June 2, 2015 Interesting reading the Sani feedback - people definitely want the groomed trails it seems. This year they were very slightly less groomed (quite lekker in my view) but this has raised comment. That said you need to do the Giants Castle MTB Challenge in order to properly calibrate 'ungroomed'.
DIPSLICK Posted June 2, 2015 Posted June 2, 2015 Interesting reading the Sani feedback - people definitely want the groomed trails it seems. This year they were very slightly less groomed (quite lekker in my view) but this has raised comment. That said you need to do the Giants Castle MTB Challenge in order to properly calibrate 'ungroomed'.i dont know about the groomed part, people in general just wanted to be able to ride it ie,,,, no one holding them up seeding and red ants stuffed that up
Cav' Posted June 2, 2015 Posted June 2, 2015 i dont know about the groomed part, people in general just wanted to be able to ride it ie,,,, no one holding them up seeding and red ants stuffed that upI hope you know that after your Sani-Entry mishap, you've got no choice but to ride it with me next year!
DIPSLICK Posted June 2, 2015 Posted June 2, 2015 I hope you know that after your Sani-Entry mishap, you've got no choice but to ride it with me next year! i am really sorry about the mix up about sani feel like such a multitool
Cav' Posted June 2, 2015 Posted June 2, 2015 i am really sorry about the mix up about sani feel like such a multitoolNo worries man, I might have been pissed if I didn't have an entry at the end of the day but I did get a Sub remember (although the oke is already PM'ing me to return it once they open for 2016 )
DIPSLICK Posted June 2, 2015 Posted June 2, 2015 No worries man, I might have been pissed if I didn't have an entry at the end of the day but I did get a Sub remember (although the oke is already PM'ing me to return it once they open for 2016 )to make it worse, after all the drama of last min rush around i rode day one and had to get collected at mkenzi for work drama,,,should have known it was going to be a stuff up waking up so late
Cav' Posted June 2, 2015 Posted June 2, 2015 to make it worse, after all the drama of last min rush around i rode day one and had to get collected at mkenzi for work drama,,,should have known it was going to be a stuff up waking up so lateI saw on the Results you only did Day 1 and thought WTF, next year skip J2C and just do S2C from the start.
DIPSLICK Posted June 2, 2015 Posted June 2, 2015 I saw on the Results you only did Day 1 and thought WTF, next year skip J2C and just do S2C from the start.done a few,,,huge train smash at work rode packed phoned for a lift drove back to jhb straight to work SUCKED,,,I SUPPOSE IT HAPPENS
flymango Posted June 2, 2015 Posted June 2, 2015 done a few,,,huge train smash at work rode packed phoned for a lift drove back to jhb straight to work SUCKED,,,I SUPPOSE IT HAPPENSA bad day on the bike still beats a good day in the office. Must have been a really bad day in the office if you were having a good day on the bike.
DIPSLICK Posted June 2, 2015 Posted June 2, 2015 A bad day on the bike still beats a good day in the office. Must have been a really bad day in the office if you were having a good day on the bike.actually i hated every km of day one ,,,,but only because i was only thinking about my train smash waiting for me when i got back the next day at work i was thinking i would be at umkomaas now,,,,,ill be bleeding at nandosthere is always next year
Skubarra Posted June 2, 2015 Posted June 2, 2015 there is always next year Unless you forgot you entered
NixM Posted June 5, 2015 Posted June 5, 2015 Interesting response from farmer Glen: For 2016 we will focus on the following:Reduce numbers per event. Reduce clothing. One quality item. (Please note many people thought that clothing in years gone by was sponsored, it was not. In 2015 we focused spending on your riding and race village experience). For 2016 we investigating the option of replacing the black boxes with wheelie bags which will be a gift to you together with one quality item of clothing. Pre event camping at Glencairn will be up to standard and will include meals. Riders will need to book this option when they enter. No late bookings for meals. No start batches bigger than 50 teams. (No special treatment. You need to earn your seeding pre event.) 10 minute start gaps between all batches every day. (This means all our back markers need to get fitter. They will have less time to get to the cut offs – we noticed many people this year had not trained hard enough – sani2c is not the toughest ride but it is still tough) Stricter enforcement on:Move route away from highly populated local areas where youth and children have become a real safety issue. More than this the begging for sweets and chocolates etc. irritates riders. This pertains to Day 2 and the end Day 3. Batch Check In. Re introduce stickers on the bike? (for all events – for ride experience not so much racing) 2 minute Time Separation Penalties. Enforce. (This is a team event) Cut offs at water tables. (we will bring back the honor of riding sani2c) Big route changes on Day 2. ( The start and 39km to 75km) Zero tolerance for rude riders on route or in race villages. Zero tolerance for littering on route, this will now include the handing out of sweets by riders.Focusing on the positivesMost of our field arrives with total understanding and appreciation of what Nedbank sani2c is about. I appreciate those who genuinely care about the event and who take the time to express their thoughts positively and constructively. We continually strive to improve the event each year for the benefit of riders, sponsors, landowners and crew.All the communities working in the race villages and along the race route do so for some organization. Many of the workers are also landowners who kindly allow us to pass through their farms. Often we interrupt their farming operations and they are inconvenienced because of us.At our post event feedback session, I was shocked to hear of the many rude riders we have. In some cases I am embarrassed to be a mountain biker. These characters are not sani2c people. They demotivate the crew and more importantly are a real risk with our landowners. They are generally very high maintenance which an event the size of sani cannot handle. Our events and our sport can do without them. We will work on trying to get these people to appreciate what has been done for them. If we cannot get them to appreciate this we will assure that they not allowed back. The sani2c spirit and atmosphere is very important to the event and I will work hard on making this even stronger.Reigniting the sani2c spirit.sani2c was initiated by a bunch of real mountain bikers who just loved being together spending time, pioneering on their mountain bikes. My goal for 2016 will be to inspire all our riders to strive for this special spirit. For 2016, through sani2c I will make every effort to place my focus on making all our rider better people on and off the bike. My goal will be to develop more riders with some of the old values listed below.Inspirational positive characters that inspire all around them to lead a better healthy life style. The people they inspire will include their children, family, friends, colleague’s, our farmers our sponsors and our crew.Have a full appreciation of being able to ride some of the best trails in the world. This means not just taking for granted that they fit and healthy but also appreciating the years of work that people have gone into to make this possible. (35km new trails for 2016)Fully appreciate an event which supports its people and community and thereby help add to its great community spirit. That this is more than just a mountain bike race.An appreciation of experiencing new innovative ideas for mountain bikers and stage racing.An appreciation of the annual upgrades to the race villages and it opportunities it offers for many.They aspire to be proper mountain bikers who want to ride bikes on mountain bike trails.They appreciate the investment made in overall rider experience.They don’t expect to be waited on at every turn.They treat marshals, crew, school kids, farmers and their wives with respect and appreciate this as this is what will keep communities motivated and trying their best for us.They despise litter on the route and don’t hand out sweets.They sufficiently trained to enjoy the experience and because of this will not be grumpy or make it necessary for us to enforce cut offs.They can ride single track but will happily allow faster people to pass.They positive and constructive. Nedbank sani2c is for people who make this country and world better for all. It is for those who focus on solutions and offer positive constructive criticism. It is for those who appreciate and love riding their bikes in this remarkable area. We look forward to welcoming all those that embrace this spirit for an even better Nedbank sani2c.Feel free to send us any ideas you may have that may enhance your experience and we will work hard at implementing them. All of us here in sani country appreciate your support and look forward to hosting and treating you all to something exciting and new where the old community spirit will shine brightest in May 2016.Kind regardsFarmer Glen and the Nedbank sani2c team
watsonr Posted June 5, 2015 Posted June 5, 2015 Once again The Hub proves influential. Those changes sound spot on.
nonky Posted June 5, 2015 Posted June 5, 2015 Once again The Hub proves influential. Those changes sound spot on.First Sani, next the Large Hadron Collider and, finally, THE MEANING OF LIFE ITSELF
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