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:clap: And we all know what regulations and laws in SA means ?

 

I will not take my family to trails where these bikes are allowed , like sending the kid out on her bike onto a MX track .

 

That's rich coming from a betoger

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If our club ever gets to vote about allowing off-road e-bikes on our trails, I will vote against granting permission. The trails were founded for mountain biking, and mountain biking is a human powered activity. Pure and simple. In the meantime, I think the term "human powered only" needs to be included in trail rules and cycling club's constitutions.

 

If a person wants to ride an off-road e-bike, it would be prudent set up dedicated e-bike clubs and trails for this purpose. I guess its going to be difficult. It was damn difficult to get mountain biking trails established and the permissions are fragile.

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http://brimages.bikeboardmedia.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/R-side_z.jpg

 

 

 

FOUND: USER CONFLICT ERADICATION MOPED DEATH MACHINE

 

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The Norcal Motoped dealer demonstrating frustration at current model’s lack of multiple tactical cutting tools

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  • Gerber Fixed Blade Saw
  • Blackburn X6 Light System
  • Black Diamond Carabiners / Climbing rope
  • Cree Mini LED Flashlight
  • BioLogic Bike Mount for iPhone4/gps
  • Tool Logic Tactical Multifunction Knife / light
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Live and let live.

 

I once did a trail ride in the Baakens Valley with a 74 year old oomie riding with me on his e-bike. He had proper skill and negotiated the technical sections brilliantly. However he would not have been able to do this ride if he could not get the assistance from the motor up the steep hills and on the fast flats.

 

There are many people who would love to ride on MTB trails but age or disability prevents them from doing so. If e-bikes can put the smile back on their faces, why not?

 

Nico Vouilloz did some training on one of Lappierre's ebikes while he was recovering from an injury (love the part where he drops the roadies):

 

http://vimeo.com/92316948

 

Of course, if e-bikes allows people with disabilities or heck, even people who suffer from conditions like asthma to enjoy trails then definitely yes, but I think the concern is more in regards to cases where for instance, people recklessly speed up a climb with the motor etc. etc. etc. - the cases where regular cyclists safety are compromised by reckless etc. behaviour.

 

No. Nope. Never.

 

Too fast, too powerful, too easy to hack to be more powerful, impossible to regulate. Give them their own areas, maybe MX tracks ^_^

 

Think about it, if they're allowed to share trails with us, you'll have to worry about some bugger riding into the back of you while you're riding UP a hill.

 

But I'm a huge fan of such machines on-road - reckon that's the way the world's going.

 

saw this post after I typed my reply lol

 

No such thing as ZERO pollution, with electric bikes, the energy (electricity) is generated elsewhere (i.e. power plants).

 

Obviously, in everything there is embodied energy emissions. EVERYTHING.

I'm saying I don't want some clown blowing filthy black smoke on the single track that I cycle on.

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I really dont care what people ride, as long as it doesnt make noise or smell.

 

also if you want too look like a idiot riding/ spending big bucks (only 5300 euros) to ride something like this, im all for it, haha

 

http://www.nicolai.net/files/01_11.jpg

 

http://attitudebikes.files.wordpress.com/2011/09/305133_190260544377426_128918397178308_458539_4961515_n.jpg

 

Looks like a shotgun with a cycling attachment

 

Price tag locally could limit numbers here.

 

YEP- I recently looked at the new Specialized ebike model- RRP for something like $6500. I tried finding the web page but couldn't. oh well

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I rather think that e-bikes are nice commuter machines than sport machines. That said if you feel like a challenge and want to commute through rough terrain on trails then let it be so. Just do not shout get out of the way when you wizz past me on a hill.

 

I found this foldable e-bilke on eBay for $999. Looks like one can use it to travel Africa by boat, train, taxi, bus and then bike. Packing it out when public transport runs out.

 

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Junma-Folding-26-Mountain-bike-style-e-bike-ebike-electric-bicycle-/131260559002?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_15&hash=item1e8fbd2e9a&_uhb=1

Posted

I rather think that e-bikes are nice commuter machines than sport machines. That said if you feel like a challenge and want to commute through rough terrain on trails then let it be so. Just do not shout get out of the way when you wizz past me on a hill.

 

I found this foldable e-bilke on eBay for $999. Looks like one can use it to travel Africa by boat, train, taxi, bus and then bike. Packing it out when public transport runs out.

 

http://www.ebay.com....8fbd2e9a&_uhb=1

 

Someone posted earlier on this thread, a pic of one at Makro.

 

I'll try find it and a link

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I rather think that e-bikes are nice commuter machines than sport machines. That said if you feel like a challenge and want to commute through rough terrain on trails then let it be so. Just do not shout get out of the way when you wizz past me on a hill.

 

I found this foldable e-bilke on eBay for $999. Looks like one can use it to travel Africa by boat, train, taxi, bus and then bike. Packing it out when public transport runs out.

 

http://www.ebay.com....8fbd2e9a&_uhb=1

Someone posted earlier on this thread, a pic of one at Makro.

 

I'll try find it and a link

 

Here you go

http://www.makro.co....icycle-276646EA

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