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[Jester6]

You are right…stories about these riders being called assholes do keep surfacing...Similarly, we keep hearing stories where slower riders are victimised and in some cases, abused by time-chasers. In fact…these incidents have now become part of every single race. And that’s the problem. Chasing a good time is one thing but a good time at the expense of the safety of another rider is totally unacceptable…then you become an asshole.

Precisely what I'm trying to say

[nonky]

GET BETTER SOON!

[Matchstix]

Hope the kid recovers soon and get back on his bike quickly.

 

Now one of the problems is races that overlap towards the end. Happens a lot even staggered start times does not help this.

 

Slower riders are not usually aware of what's happening and this should be warned on route then. Board that says faster riders will pass you.

Faster riders should make them self known to slower riders. Yelling "trek" as the standard r "passing right" as examples.

All riders should know this is how a situation should be approached and slower riders should make way for faster riders.

 

I still can't figure out how do you fall so that can happen. Especially the one where the handle bar penetrates the leg. How much force is needed?

[eelvio]

I think that's why some brake lever manufacturers for motorbikes have a 'ball' end on the brake lever?

 

That is exactly why and we have rules to say bar ends, brakes and footpegs need a minimal rounded end surface in the racing categories.

[Patchelicious]

We always hear of fast riders being @$$hole$ in the view of the slower riders when in fact they might only be racing for a good time.

He is not an a$$hol3 for being faster, but for not stopping! Edited August 22, 2014 by Patchelicious

[Patchelicious]

There are going to be many more of these incidents. Cycling is becoming more popular, and organisers over lap short rides with longer (faster) ones to accommodate the masses. GaryvdM can probably remember at BergenDale how hairy it was merging with shorter race in the Cradle.... extra riders on weekend rides too. Those who rode R4S can also probably remember merging with the shorter race, slower riders and those BLOODY cones to deal with. Faster guys are going to race, that's the point of training and getting faster. Others will ride for fun, shorter distances to enjoy it and they should be entitled to this. Solution is probably to separate the two distances a bit more, or run them on different days, but that starts to effect the commercials of the event.... its a tough one.

Edited August 22, 2014 by Patchelicious

[Hennie VR]

He is not an a$$hol3 for being faster, but for not stopping!

 

Yes........IF he did in fact bump the kid off his bike then I agree he should have stopped and asked if he is ok.

 

But I have also seen new/inexperienced riders riding so slow in sections that looks a little "technical" that they fall over or off their bike and in that case you can call me an @$$hole but I'm not going to stop and take pity on you and tell you did well by trying and boosting your ego. If it looks like a serious fall then yes I will stop.

[Hennie VR]

Those who rode R4S can also probably remember merging with the shorter race, slower riders and those BLOODY cones to deal with.

 

I got dropped by the bunch not long before that point. Burned energy I never had trying to catch them again. Needless to say I was so exhausted by that stage I was trying to wheelsuck even the slowest of riders and struggled to keep up

[Patchelicious]

Yes........IF he did in fact bump the kid off his bike then I agree he should have stopped and asked if he is ok.

 

But I have also seen new/inexperienced riders riding so slow in sections that looks a little "technical" that they fall over or off their bike and in that case you can call me an @$$hole but I'm not going to stop and take pity on you and tell you did well by trying and boosting your ego. If it looks like a serious fall then yes I will stop.

I call guys who can ride up or down sections I cant a$$hol3$ the whole time, not for not stopping, but just for being able to do something I cant

[TALUS]

He is not an a$$hol3 for being faster, but for not stopping!

As I tried to explain - he might not have seen the kid falling behind him and he was definitely concentrating on what was ahead. I like to believe that most MTB'ers are good people.

[Patchelicious]

As I tried to explain - he might not have seen the kid falling behind him and he was definitely concentrating on what was ahead. I like to believe that most MTB'ers people are good people.

fixed

[Karooryder]

I'm not going to stop and take pity on you and tell you did well by trying and boosting your ego.

 

Well you’re not Oprah so nobody expects that from you.

 

However, I do indeed hope that you would stop and take pity in a young man with a piece of bike in his leg, telling him he’s doing well and boosting his ego…no matter what the effect on your race results.

Edited August 22, 2014 by Karooryder

[TALUS]

Well you’re not Oprah so nobody expects that from you.

 

However, I do indeed hope that you would stop and take pity in a young man with a piece of bike in his leg, telling him he’s doing well and boosting his ego…no matter what the effect on your race results.

Purely for purposes of discussion (not directly referring to this incident) : A cyclist prepares for a race that is important to him. He travels a long way to participate and in the process spending a lot of money. A fellow cyclist that is not racing falls. To what extend must one get involved (both morally and in reality)?

[Hennie VR]

Well you’re not Oprah so nobody expects that from you.

 

However, I do indeed hope that you would stop and take pity in a young man with a piece of bike in his leg, telling him he’s doing well and boosting his ego…no matter what the effect on your race results.

 

Did you read the last sentence in my post?

[Hennie VR]

Purely for purposes of discussion (not directly referring to this incident) : A cyclist prepares for a race that is important to him. He travels a long way to participate and in the process spending a lot of money. A fellow cyclist that is not racing falls. To what extend must one get involved (both morally and in reality)?

 

I will slow down/stop and ask if the person is ok if it looks like a serious fall.(a fall other than someone falling over etc. because they rode to slow)

 

If it's in a race and I see other people attending to the person then I don't stop. I'm not a doctor and won't be able to help the person any better than the persons already attending to him BUT I will tell the next marshal I see that there was a crash so that he can call for help if someone has not yet informed him.

 

If I'm on a training ride then I will always stop and ask no matter how small your tumble was.

[Titan29er]

Oh my shattered nerves.......

 

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